From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARC2oonwBBoE6Z0mZg@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 22 13:32:05 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZU5g-0001X3-Bu; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:32:05 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf645353pzk.16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=e4Ieb0F292fN3SCotEhMyu/Xc1CMBbveFR6w1mkjYUY=; b=j5nJqoXGzaH2CCyN8m2OkGCI/fKIfc39Bpcf7HDwmL8Y2WJeZI5wOBNulon0Sfnc9d hqAJpovXMHU7XUdDeKn+JgOuRT6IsCE0A6EjuwBQO8qA0W7MQrR4LIxkgynmAEdigX8P fCAVc/xQZPahDzvbRjTXt1/zg0Y9JrC0RNWhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=EbgRiiZDDqlqVyjdl6eAKWtfwv8u262F9BIfPsdV6079JP98uhZEbxmdT49pBz+iaq UzT6ls5MV0HzN4SxlfvriYqQ3AkoakMBs4G6tutlN+NeUMh8puYjlFWFuADYH6jFr8mZ AcVw97BMR9pXL0Q0c/tp0oSrrbdHXxkZMkS9Y= Received: by 10.68.27.104 with SMTP id s8mr106234pbg.54.1308774710754; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.59.41 with SMTP id w9ls320057pbq.1.gmail; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.17.34 with SMTP id l2mr214617pbd.89.1308774708150; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.17.34 with SMTP id l2mr214616pbd.89.1308774708128; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si1928669pbi.2.2011.06.22.13.31.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.53; Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6so15156pzk.12 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.48.136 with SMTP id l8mr729671pbn.124.1308774707886; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.104 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26547485.897.1308756305536.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdp8> <377460.81870.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:31:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53964028df99d04a652db83 --bcaec53964028df99d04a652db83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "dries" in the sense of {sudgau} instead of in the sense of {sudbi'o}. The whole puzzle in English is based on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o} being the same word. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > So in English, the answer could be "a towel"? > > .i do'e lo glibau se danfu ju'o cu'i xu lo krebu'u .i .ua nai ru'e > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> I think there have been word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don't know any >> off the top of my head and I do know they're rather more difficult to make >> than they are in English. >> >> But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle at all, >> because of the nature of Lojban itself. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clifford wrote: >> >>> Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle? Or is that the point: pun riddles are >>> nigh impossible in Lojban? >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Muhammad Nael >>> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com >>> *Sent:* Wed, June 22, 2011 10:25:05 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles >>> >>> That was it... I'm perfectly good with Lojban grammar, but my vocab is >>> still very small. >>> BTW, I sent you a mail. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/lcuSS2Phpc8J. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec53964028df99d04a652db83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "dries" in the sense of {sudgau} instead of in the sense of {sudb= i'o}. The whole puzzle in English is based on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o= } being the same word.

On Wed, Jun 22, 20= 11 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
So in English, th= e answer could be "a towel"?

.i do'e lo glibau se danf= u ju'o cu'i xu lo krebu'u .i .ua nai ru'e


On Wed, Jun= 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wro= te:
I think there hav= e been word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don't know any off the top of= my head and I do know they're rather more difficult to make than they = are in English.

But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle at all, = because of the nature of Lojban itself.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clif= ford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle?=A0 Or is that the point:= pun riddles are nigh impossible in Lojban?



From: Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>= ;
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojb= an puzzles

That was it... I'm perfec= tly good with Lojban grammar, but my vocab is still very small.
BTW, I sent you a mail.

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