From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhDCvonwBBoEaTb8QQ@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 22 14:32:01 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZV1h-00038Z-Ah; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:32:01 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1514618fxm.16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=xAFR2aButu6dlmhSKPa68kwtr6ycRmtToAfxTwLijN0=; b=BYsQpBICKALdjAJWlQ/Vna3si5fRvDlnooPgtSDiZ2q17hGKYtMBLfqvPxNu0LDU4K /Ab8QLGMg5cs8Z6zCdEnUJNQxluMEot2YAh0GQwZQMrgvQf2BK8I4PJj4Mq0UlitXxVW CGQfRNJHn4g8+oBcF3tOzG9EttpYl0Q7sqJJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=a3qVF92HgYsFdH/Ef8S4VmqNTWsnec21YXS7WJqp3CqdQ0X2wPCKo7pLbSUQ4tFOht +dNU8dwgHTfT7YI7394OIQM2NBByZR10WPLCiJNaFAXGO5FH2pA+hc1aSCHXcBjLIFTi PuSurKcWtOv7OJz07SEjQs8lZLUDWqR909kd0= Received: by 10.223.2.196 with SMTP id 4mr219588fak.19.1308778306736; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.166.66 with SMTP id l2ls503061bky.2.gmail; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.172.130 with SMTP id l2mr18412bkz.23.1308778305370; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.172.130 with SMTP id l2mr18411bkz.23.1308778305335; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com (mail-bw0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y18si110876bkf.2.2011.06.22.14.31.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bw0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 15so1778031bwz.33 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.12.68 with SMTP id w4mr77888bkw.160.1308778305099; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.50.152 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:31:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26547485.897.1308756305536.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdp8> <377460.81870.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:31:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255581c2f7174a04a653b19f --0003255581c2f7174a04a653b19f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also, "dries" could mean {sudri'a} (non-agentatively cause to be dry), so {tu'a lo krebu'u mi sudri'a .ije ri cimbi'o} On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > "dries" in the sense of {sudgau} instead of in the sense of {sudbi'o}. The > whole puzzle in English is based on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o} being the same > word. > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > >> So in English, the answer could be "a towel"? >> >> .i do'e lo glibau se danfu ju'o cu'i xu lo krebu'u .i .ua nai ru'e >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> I think there have been word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don't know any >>> off the top of my head and I do know they're rather more difficult to make >>> than they are in English. >>> >>> But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle at all, >>> because of the nature of Lojban itself. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clifford wrote: >>> >>>> Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle? Or is that the point: pun riddles are >>>> nigh impossible in Lojban? >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Muhammad Nael >>>> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com >>>> *Sent:* Wed, June 22, 2011 10:25:05 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles >>>> >>>> That was it... I'm perfectly good with Lojban grammar, but my vocab is >>>> still very small. >>>> BTW, I sent you a mail. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/lcuSS2Phpc8J. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alex R >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0003255581c2f7174a04a653b19f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, "dries" could mean {sudri'a} (non-agentatively cause to= be dry), so {tu'a lo krebu'u mi sudri'a .ije ri cimbi'o}
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Ian Johns= on <blindbra= vado@gmail.com> wrote:
"dries" in the sense of {sudgau} = instead of in the sense of {sudbi'o}. The whole puzzle in English is ba= sed on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o} being the same word.


On Wed, Jun= 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
So in English, the answ= er could be "a towel"?

.i do'e lo glibau se danfu ju&#= 39;o cu'i xu lo krebu'u .i .ua nai ru'e


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at = 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I think there have been= word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don't know any off the top of my he= ad and I do know they're rather more difficult to make than they are in= English.

But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle at all, = because of the nature of Lojban itself.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clif= ford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle?=A0 Or is that the point: pun= riddles are nigh impossible in Lojban?


From: Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 10:25:05 A= M
Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban= puzzles

That was it... I'm perfectl= y good with Lojban grammar, but my vocab is still very small.
BTW, I sent you a mail.

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