From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhCwx4nwBBoEH-n11w@googlegroups.com Wed Jun 22 14:50:52 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QZVJy-0005g2-1R; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:52 -0700 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8sf742000pwj.16 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=u+urxhMBxuyouRUp2cvL+lWRmm0gVjRPkGvdmLg5CK0=; b=iJMlc30uhYyQoAEBdlmElgCjOQGIMGCc+5B9Bd2AifjjpvEdKRY2IsNyoAy88NtZ5F Sus7BUJIH0Oh4qRE2Yx830+uNVGEhj26xAfq83W2e8KhKoG1Z5mXt7Agtc6Vm30G0GFj ppeWYy0crTnIKw8y06oORTZboIdZsx4fz3TUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=wuXHHSC2GLe4VzkIXPaScd2pjUhQk+4YBBeku6qFl/O6AF0xO2LIVLpG0Z0TDhuJoo L+OBT7lHo+RjGZDrlTEv17+9dR0jHAmTDBHgvMAcXC8Ln/qVM4RZ6E8Z14I0uj9644f6 XLYZjMNGlwgw8+zUa8LcV5pjVWz1U9UYLRhGE= Received: by 10.68.15.197 with SMTP id z5mr213267pbc.76.1308779440322; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.37.105 with SMTP id x9ls335540pbj.2.gmail; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.42.197 with SMTP id q5mr228396pbl.15.1308779438162; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.42.197 with SMTP id q5mr228395pbl.15.1308779438146; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com (mail-bw0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si2038971pbi.2.2011.06.22.14.50.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.41; Received: by mail-bw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 17so1401242bwz.0 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.12.68 with SMTP id w4mr89776bkw.160.1308779436729; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.50.152 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26547485.897.1308756305536.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdp8> <377460.81870.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:50:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255581c26a677404a653f589 --0003255581c26a677404a653f589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .i ko'a ro da citka .i go'i loi cipni .e loi mabru .e loi tricu .e loi xrula .i batci lo trise .e lo gasta .i zalvi lo jdari rokci da .i catra loi nolraitru .i se fesygau loi tcadu .i rapyda'i loi glatu cmana ja'e lo dizlo .i ko'a mo source: http://www.berghuis.co.nz/abiator/unit/hobbit/ch/riddles.html On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Paul Predkiewicz < paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote: > Then how about something similar to what can be read in the little hobbit? > As far as i can remember there were a couple of puzzles...something > like what has roots reaching deep into the earth blabla and the answer > was a mountain or something... i can't really remember > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > > "dries" in the sense of {sudgau} instead of in the sense of {sudbi'o}. > The > > whole puzzle in English is based on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o} being the same > > word. > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn > > wrote: > >> > >> So in English, the answer could be "a towel"? > >> > >> .i do'e lo glibau se danfu ju'o cu'i xu lo krebu'u .i .ua nai ru'e > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >>> > >>> I think there have been word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don't know > any > >>> off the top of my head and I do know they're rather more difficult to > make > >>> than they are in English. > >>> > >>> But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle at all, > >>> because of the nature of Lojban itself. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clifford > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle? Or is that the point: pun riddles > are > >>>> nigh impossible in Lojban? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: Muhammad Nael > >>>> To: lojban@googlegroups.com > >>>> Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 10:25:05 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles > >>>> > >>>> That was it... I'm perfectly good with Lojban grammar, but my vocab is > >>>> still very small. > >>>> BTW, I sent you a mail. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "lojban" group. > >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/lcuSS2Phpc8J. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "lojban" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >>> > >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "lojban" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alex R > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "lojban" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0003255581c26a677404a653f589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i ko'a ro da citka
.i go'i loi cipni .e loi mabru .e loi tricu = .e loi xrula
.i batci lo trise .e lo gasta
.i zalvi lo jdari rokci da=
.i catra loi nolraitru .i se fesygau loi tcadu
.i rapyda'i loi g= latu cmana ja'e lo dizlo

.i ko'a mo

source: http://www.berghuis.co.nz/abiator/unit/hob= bit/ch/riddles.html

On Wed, Jun 22, 2= 011 at 5:33 PM, Paul Predkiewicz <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Then how about something similar to what ca= n be read in the little hobbit?
As far as i can remember there were a couple of puzzles...something
like what has roots reaching deep into the earth blabla and the answer
was a mountain or something... i can't really remember

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
> "dries" in the sense of {sudgau} instead of in the sense of = {sudbi'o}. The
> whole puzzle in English is based on {sudgau} and {sudbi'o} being t= he same
> word.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> So in English, the answer could be "a towel"?
>>
>> .i do'e lo glibau se danfu ju'o cu'i xu lo krebu'u= .i .ua nai ru'e
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think there have been word-play puzzles in Lojban, but I don= 't know any
>>> off the top of my head and I do know they're rather more d= ifficult to make
>>> than they are in English.
>>>
>>> But, yes, the Lojban of this particular puzzle is not a puzzle= at all,
>>> because of the nature of Lojban itself.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't all this ruin the puzzle?=A0 Or is that the po= int: pun riddles are
>>>> nigh impossible in Lojban?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
>>>> To: lojban@goog= legroups.com
>>>> Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 10:25:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban puzzles
>>>>
>>>> That was it... I'm perfectly good with Lojban grammar,= but my vocab is
>>>> still very small.
>>>> BTW, I sent you a mail.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pat= fu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>> =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R
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