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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] How it should have been. And how it could be. Message-ID: <20110623220054.GB3668@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <18295425.2260.1308825326908.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqie9> <20110623172500.GO8547@digitalkingdom.org> <20110623174229.GQ8547@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.54 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:25:35PM -0500, Hugh O'Byrne wrote: > Heh. Apparently Robin's pretty impressive community consists of one > other person. > Hugh, The number of people speaking up on an issue isn't a fair representation of the distribution of opinion on the matter. The conclusion you draw above does not have a basis in fact. Really, stating it is a request to have it falsified, no? I'm solidly on Robin's side for this one. I do think that Tinkerer's are a useful and valid part of the Lojban community, and I think the fastest way to get what you want as a Tinkerer is to follow-up with exactly the things Robin requested get done. (Which should not be construed to mean that the CLL work is only appropriate to Tinkerers. Robin is requesting CLL work because it has the highest utility for the Lojban community as a whole, regardless of any one person's particular cliques.) -Alan -- .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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