From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBCG85PwBBoEnfMnQA@googlegroups.com Fri Jun 24 13:54:47 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QaDOi-00088V-PO; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:46 -0700 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8sf1914866pwj.16 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p96a4QLlhl4zQgzgQQepOXrBgwPDDsE5E+WdAcuDR64=; b=3m1JOZQGOowjqyc/R25/SyHjTKsswN/RMI6H7m5Ld8B+k5HlVMOifAmp5tGJvjVpvC ULS1VVoGZW8mndEvBqMhcA0idZsQEYpHDdxR5zXttfhP0rOPHnOaq+H4OHMORUj2z0r6 lMDcEXDhMJ39jA6N1LXZfakkqPZtuoaudUFIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=qoATyEOuAVZzsdYMebgv482TxdJ6Aaogt5pGhsbU4CfuSW9w9NR9r9l24hWeDKsBVQ TPc4Pgj5TiH5JRNoJTCq10a0KPHzGmel9azBSbZy0ThENqqav6NNdTwaN5obDdkY2F0D SaOBOGA6NXil7gccHewEZUbMXMuYF/dzPUtkg= Received: by 10.142.178.8 with SMTP id a8mr308921wff.13.1308948870994; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.59.41 with SMTP id w9ls884005pbq.1.gmail; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.42.197 with SMTP id q5mr682126pbl.15.1308948870209; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.42.197 with SMTP id q5mr682125pbl.15.1308948870198; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com (mail-pw0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si6413703pbi.2.2011.06.24.13.54.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.45 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.160.45; Received: by pwi5 with SMTP id 5so2062023pwi.32 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.17.198 with SMTP id q6mr1866737pbd.287.1308948868208; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9sm2305499pbk.84.2011.06.24.13.54.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:54:21 -0600 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban interpreter Message-ID: <20110624205421.GG5520@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <811b7e98-8667-40e4-a496-09df7b5704d8@k6g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <20110623213048.GA3668@alice.local> <8efc584f-bdce-4463-a526-27750c137d99@d42g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <20110624160253.GD5520@alice.local> <736e25d5-4067-401e-b32a-d8e2ede5d3d1@g12g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <3f239d4b-7784-4d7b-a58e-082d9fa081ba@5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3f239d4b-7784-4d7b-a58e-082d9fa081ba@5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.45 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I watched a talk by Stuart Halloway titled "Simplicity Ain't Easy." In the talk, he unboxes what people (programmers, really) mean when they say "simple." It's a fascinating video: he starts with a tour of outrageously contradictory quotes on the topic, works up to a formal definition, and then discusses how that definition was used in designing Clojure. If you're interested, have a look: http://blip.tv/clojure/stuart-halloway-simplicity-ain-t-easy-4842694 -Alan On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 01:47:28PM -0700, mirhagk wrote: > I don't mean simple as in Brainf**k, ie not simplicity in the design, > simplicity in the use. Using normal everyday language to program is my > goal. >=20 > On Jun 24, 12:20=A0pm, Ivo Doko wrote: > > On 24 June 2011 17:16, mirhagk wrote: > > > > > 3. To develop the absolute simplest programming language. > > > > I'm not sure what "absolute simplest programming language" means to > > you exactly, but Turing machines have the simplest programming > > language possible (while still being able to compute everything any > > modern computer can). > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .ivan. >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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