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And how it could be. To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <29316621.1524.1309021600381.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdx5> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-969599245-1309024382=:25595" --0-969599245-1309024382=:25595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you have a few pages on Renodre up somewhere? Without that guide it is = hard=20 to know what would help. ________________________________ From: Muhammad Nael To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, June 25, 2011 12:06:40 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: How it should have been. And how it could be. About Renodre=CC=81, I'm pretty sure that you've heard about Ithkuil, Renod= re=CC=81is=20 10^99 times easier in its syntax and grammar, but its phonology is ten time= s=20 more difficult; that may be because my ears aren't that good. I'd very much= like=20 some guidance here: links, books, articles or personal help; I'd be much=20 obliged. Regards, MN=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit=20 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/fGuc1LqGVLoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Do you have a few pages on Renodre up somewhere?  Without= that guide it is hard to know what would help.


From: Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.= com>
To: lojban@goog= legroups.com
Sent: Sat,= June 25, 2011 12:06:40 PM
Subject= : Re: [lojban] Re: How it should have been. And how it could be.=

About Renodre=CC=81, I'm pretty sure that you've heard about It= hkuil, Renodre= =CC=81 is 10^99 times easier in its syntax and = grammar, but its phonology is ten times more difficult; that may be because= my ears aren't that good. I'd very much like some guidance here: links, bo= oks, articles or personal help; I'd be much obliged.


Regards,
MN

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