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Subject: Re: [lojban] How it should have been. And how it could be.
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This is probably just a factor of our habits of word formation, whereby more 
precise words are longer, and  then the psychology of Zipf's law come into play




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From: Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 12:34:29 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] How it should have been. And how it could be.

The main way I expect Lojban to change in the coming years is to

develop much more vocabulary.  Particularly filling out the lujvo
>space, and also probably more fu'ivla and I hope some interesting
>zi'evla.  Lojban feels like a language that wants to have a lot lot
>lot of vocabulary.  We insist that every word has just one meaning.
>There's this sense that what you do is simply choose the word that
>means exactly what you're actually saying.  But so far we mostly have
>these bland fuzzy gismu.  I think Lojban will feel more like the
>precise language we imagine it to be, with words directly capturing
>all sorts of subtle flavors.  People will always be saying, "You know
>what I think is the perfect word to describe that?" and then pulling
>out some rich obscure precise descriptive term.
>
>mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o
There's a flip side to this in that essay by camgusmis about computer terms. 
Namely, good Lojban uses the least precise terms necessary to avoid confusion in 
context. I tend to agree with that side, other than with regard to things like 
jargon, or other highly specific things.

mu'o mi'e .latros.
 


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t-size:12pt"><div>This is probably just a factor of our habits of word form=
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ma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</=
span></b> Ian Johnson &lt;blindbravado@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"f=
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The main way I expect Lojban to change in the coming years is to<br><div cl=
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develop much more vocabulary. &nbsp;Particularly filling out the lujvo<br>
space, and also probably more fu'ivla and I hope some interesting<br>
zi'evla. &nbsp;Lojban feels like a language that wants to have a lot lot<br=
>
lot of vocabulary. &nbsp;We insist that every word has just one meaning.<br=
>
There's this sense that what you do is simply choose the word that<br>
means exactly what you're actually saying. &nbsp;But so far we mostly have<=
br>
these bland fuzzy gismu. &nbsp;I think Lojban will feel more like the<br>
precise language we imagine it to be, with words directly capturing<br>
all sorts of subtle flavors. &nbsp;People will always be saying, "You know<=
br>
what I think is the perfect word to describe that?" and then pulling<br>
out some rich obscure precise descriptive term.<br>
<br>
mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o</blockquote><div>There's a flip side to this in=
 that essay by camgusmis about computer terms. Namely, good Lojban uses the=
 least precise terms necessary to avoid confusion in context. I tend to agr=
ee with that side, other than with regard to things like jargon, or other h=
ighly specific things.<br>
<br>mu'o mi'e .latros.<br>&nbsp;</div><br></div><br>

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