From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRD5-6fwBBoEo9egzw@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 28 09:15:12 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QbawQ-0007Jn-9E; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:15:12 -0700 Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4sf385199gyg.16 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:15:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-yahoo-newman-property:x-yahoo-newman-id :x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references:message-id:date:from:subject:to :in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=goWYTiXe81O8cffafhTWLYosOaYleDvFzlWMPvsj+fc=; b=kyu2lKix13Fy/w9Wf2Zwg4Js0BOvrveL5/rMn6XLIgB4cUzs1ARMLBMV7eR0aaUE4H iv/MuVND0HGXr71e5XNcE2qpBN/v0JtgwVI2urYf3epS49W/xQW7LHK2oQ52333+5E/n 6QMM2/7Cq8J5I8AKH1PkdGbw6I7Oz1VeXNZvM= Received: by 10.101.136.15 with SMTP id o15mr54194ann.33.1309277689444; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.139.29 with SMTP id r29ls77678ann.2.gmail; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.213.15 with SMTP id l15mr28699ang.18.1309277686997; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.213.15 with SMTP id l15mr28698ang.18.1309277686971; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.221]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id h29si211307anq.2.2011.06.28.09.14.46; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.221 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.221; Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2011 16:14:46 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2011 16:14:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2011 16:14:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 551414.48636.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 80668 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jun 2011 16:14:46 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 37h5mLoVM1mRrgDoj39VR1cm1ooVeWf55EH567on_F0FUGr Zc0GJZqn_icspxc7LklyqEeMgYE1_aOPkgdPajnmWvxECE2M1bERtAD5pmtV TT252JdJiX9g_g8vnmYJq9z8EoIksQ_5Zz4wC2UEN_g12dt58fgmhw2srF.x z8rVLCudba9CfdvxSta5JaBzFInFUUOrlinlq3MKlGZvb2IOlaxnQ0msHo7S I2Fv0du0.WaSHZX6oVrtDE9bzgdOGSmCv_8xs44ElT1Czhfvy4spxiaYQc.E pHwpp2x6Ijj6k12Mgfc.cx2XCzY0D.AMaXi0T4LcdORVr4jSwNO7x_rGm_Kh OqY2Hrr5v62G1YqRJo8sYOSwTh4Uq2h6yP3p1KdEOsUh9DMXp50W2dldLJ7S rr35NeiyrxdA18R1EBoaGYg1PySvKjoLehXHp9IM7SN77YE8hnIe7WSxagI8 Py_1nNaUdzEc.WmbYH0Wsnn8MyLTvpAUez5BAsQdb0JUZ9ZeQtPNFfvjZWa4 60DuZJ8itIMG5.2JPwf4AC3e_WvA- Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: <19777184.1510.1309276941347.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdy19> Message-ID: <1309277686.79313.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: How it should have been. And how it could be. To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <19777184.1510.1309276941347.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqdy19> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.221 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1933257183-1309277686=:79313" --0-1933257183-1309277686=:79313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Gismu (basic words) were derived from the corresponding words in a number of major world languages by an algorithm that took into account the number of speakers of the languages and some other factors. The whole project was finished by a little tweaking here and there. Cmavo are partly by tradition (from Loglan), partly a priori (here is a nice unused bit of word space) and partly from similarity to gismu of related meanings (this also had a role in Loglan). Compound words are made from compound phrases by dropping bits (according to rules) from the components. Words incorporating words from other languages are treated by Lojbanding the foreign word and attaching it to an explanatory Lojban predicate. There are rules -- some rather complex -- for these latter two cases. ________________________________ From: Muhammad Nael To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 11:02:21 AM Subject: [lojban] Re: How it should have been. And how it could be. A quick put-of-topic question, I'm somewhat busy. What do you generally use for Lojban or more precisely, what did the original staff of Lojban use to generate words? I'm pretty sure they're not human-generated! 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Gismu (basic words) were derived from the corresponding words = in a number of major world languages by an algorithm that took into account= the number of speakers of the languages and some other factors.  The = whole project was finished by a little tweaking here and there.  Cmavo= are partly by tradition (from Loglan), partly a priori (here is a nice unu= sed bit of word space) and partly from similarity to gismu of related meani= ngs (this also had a role in Loglan).  Compound words are made from co= mpound phrases by dropping bits (according to rules) from the components.&n= bsp; Words incorporating words from other languages are treated by Lojbandi= ng the foreign word and attaching it to an explanatory Lojban predicate.&nb= sp; There are rules -- some rather complex -- for these latter two cases.



From: Muh= ammad Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 11:02:21 AM
Subject: [lojban] Re: How it should = have been. And how it could be.

A quick put-of-topic question= , I'm somewhat busy. What do you generally use for Lojban or more precisely= , what did the original staff of Lojban use to generate words? I'm pretty s= ure they're not human-generated! I tried Awkwords web site but I can't ge= t it to run offline, my spiders aren't so good.

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Regards,
MN

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