From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCo9KrwBBoEQTKmlQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 28 22:37:56 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QbnTH-0001JA-6V; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:56 -0700 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8sf574278pwj.16 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DpMI2BeUvqDGOcwGKW5yK/yPqUbk9fJ3objwCskPZKU=; b=k9XwbqZ6GrLJ0YcYs4BneEwcrgcGduWZsPK88KMWEZni9cRvFk+nRhMmmFXbwnb+HT 6BHwPMnPOE8vEcDLTJ+mF2y65iPgFt42jp9qvvk1UHDbSNYeIVDi6SdPLhkHKPiwIZ8I Wi198nxBoMeOAso0Vg5aGXIAMANJCZICHuyx4= Received: by 10.68.24.199 with SMTP id w7mr34792pbf.49.1309325864647; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.59.41 with SMTP id w9ls889827pbq.1.gmail; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.17.65 with SMTP id m1mr88594pbd.69.1309325863597; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.17.65 with SMTP id m1mr88593pbd.69.1309325863588; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com (mail-pw0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9si1782873pbc.2.2011.06.28.22.37.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.41; Received: by pwi12 with SMTP id 12so651615pwi.28 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.12.101 with SMTP id x5mr616642pbb.267.1309325863388; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.60.197 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:37:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0978f791-223c-4a08-9e67-a8cbf303beab@h17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> References: <18295425.2260.1308825326908.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqie9> <0978f791-223c-4a08-9e67-a8cbf303beab@h17g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:37:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: How it should have been. And how it could be. From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Escape Landsome wrote= : > So, what do I suggest ? =A0 Simply to translate some important books > (not necessarily religious ones) into Lojban : first the translation > work in itself, then the work of commenting the translations, will > make it necessary to create a lot of translation trends and ways and > fashions of translating or "accomodating" reality. While I agree on the concept of creating more translations and having threads for discussing them, I disagree with the notion of "important books". Apart as a way of making the language improving and stabilizing, having reading material is, IMHO, of paramount importance for attracting new people and keep them interested. If they have to confront with ponderous books while, at the same time, trying to understand how lojban works they will most likely turn away. I strongly believe that we (as the Lojban community) first need more simple translations and only after we will have more people going past the basics we may start attacking areas as philosophy, religion or even higher math and physics. That's why I worked (and still will work) on comics and children books (well, the other reason being that *my* lojban is barely at that level :) ). I really wish more jbopre (especially the most experienced ones) would embark in translation projects, the more diverse topics we'll cover, the more we'll have the chance to lure some new lojbanist. remod. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.