From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCyvK3vBBoEH93cKA@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 05 03:45:20 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QTApY-0000Gp-3k; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:20 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf1297701pzk.16 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ZgqJMC92Dc38DHxMDgITZddKDyV1E4+KssiaecKWojs=; b=RdMJ9c4M34qI2lGk+obhMeQPnWXYAFLxpZC6BeU5IILOyJKr+XBU6tY7ZKyVZ5hBBT 1NbNFjCtCCT7i4IIG2PO67OStduMGI3+VuRYeNp2BNwYLAZsc3MIBy+2J9gA07EtGZlX vzfp4Mz5Le4XD9UiGUAFc1wzzE/enfN18rbi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DV9Ijke3x7ESbEkXJbkT2wYRjKmaPCvmbgNAMPp8TjxxT+GJMLWRwOw9cfbLO4U64b RE+auFDl9qAUZQJ38OcZvaP6BBmE2f/E6a6OsapHSiBmzxUPC4LltKHk9Mgjwy2OTbFz 4BOYwA55Dj3/z2BW7csZj3wM2LFyRaP5O35Co= Received: by 10.68.21.106 with SMTP id u10mr261281pbe.3.1307270706357; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.39.41 with SMTP id m9ls1253112pbk.2.gmail; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.41 with SMTP id b9mr775129pbm.9.1307270705648; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.41 with SMTP id b9mr775128pbm.9.1307270705637; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si8581611pbn.1.2011.06.05.03.45.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.54; Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so1802337pzk.13 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.33.97 with SMTP id q1mr1460698pbi.424.1307270705376; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.133 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201106042321.15877.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] guess a lujvo From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The point is: Pierre siad something (in this case {jmetijdembi}). He clearly meant something specific and he will successful if we can get it or he can fail in conveying his meaning to us if we can't get a clue on what he meant. The fact that there might other (possibly better) ways of saying what he wanted to say is relevant, but it's a separate discussion, I think. remo.d On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:37 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > Don't "soy" and "soya" mean the same thing? And don't they both refer both > to the plant/legume and its seed/bean? > > stevo > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >> Not neccessarily. A soy bean is a legume. >> >> That said, "Black Pearl Soubean" is the only legume I could find via >> Google or Wikipedia that has anything to do with jemna or tilju. >> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:32 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>> >>> Wouldn't "sobde" (soya) be part of the lujvo if it were 'soy bean'? >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: >>>> >>>> I got "soy bean" almost immediately (well, after having decomposed the >>>> lujvo :) ). Didn't know there was a "Black Pearl" variety. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jonathan Jones >>>> wrote: >>>> > Well, the parts are gem/pearl-heavy-legume. >>>> > >>>> > Apparently there's a kind of soybean called the "Black Pearl Soybean". >>>> > Is >>>> > that it? >>>> > >>>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Pierre Abbat >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I just made up the word "jmetijdembi". Can you guess what it means? >>>> >> >>>> >> Pierre >>>> >> -- >>>> >> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do >>>> >> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga >>>> >> .icu'u la ma'atman. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> >> Groups >>>> >> "lojban" group. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> > >>>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>>> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> > Groups >>>> > "lojban" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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