From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDRzq7vBBoEPzgbpg@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 05 08:57:19 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QTFhT-0001Zs-3f; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:19 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf2003909vws.16 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=evFskIJYht7TlMSQnEy4+Ms2pLcJ/VsX1ouEIfrztKk=; b=s+6uRi6MVGshCgFVQT9HzK2T9gGEE7U/AjsTlB9wFG5hTV4efhUOHyowSOm4B7+h5A R7tpR8u8qc/1UVrqtTS0FXTvw3K8o7g6Oz8VlCNl4uwwHwrDQIHyOV0b2fifha4BcX0v 5aK6BdB/jssszPSE+Kf9kA5ae0JHNUmMTe1eM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=IJ6aRdLf5Mg+I1Y0poWtZNc90G3z5Y2r9YxPKgV8YMVavPN7lU6D6Uhf7Wpjdpk0yx 8ntbQrvn/nrifjfbP/cV2s1bPKK+NEx7oYqbC7IAErAw7n1DI92iIrfJ6WLGDi7wccb7 PQEYkGnMRdiY5v+Z7iWq9o9bfbVfsGnQmXy+w= Received: by 10.220.195.66 with SMTP id eb2mr98408vcb.4.1307289425141; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.179.138 with SMTP id dg10ls1632720vdc.2.gmail; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.32.71 with SMTP id g7mr1370362vdi.1.1307289424039; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.32.71 with SMTP id g7mr1370361vdi.1.1307289423985; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com (mail-qy0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cy4si3006098vdc.1.2011.06.05.08.57.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.169; Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so515256qyk.14 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.30.208 with SMTP id v16mr1299670qac.144.1307289423673; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.49.198 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:57:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201106042321.15877.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 11:57:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] guess a lujvo From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'd guess "carob bean ", because the carat, the unit of weight for gems comes from the Arabic for carob seed. --gejyspa On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Because the Black Pearl Soybean, a specific kind of soybean, is the only > legume I could find that has anything to do with precious stones or > heaviness. (I doubt it's right, but a wrong guess is still better than none > at all.) > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:51 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> >> Okay, I get that. I don't know what {jmetijdembi} is, but somebody >> suggested 'soybean', which seems like an odd choice since there's already >> "sobde" that means 'soy(a)', so why suggest 'soybean' when there's no >> "sobde" in Pierre's lujvo? Or is his lujvo possibly just a synonym? >> >> stevo >> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: >>> >>> The point is: Pierre siad something (in this case {jmetijdembi}). He >>> clearly meant something specific and he will successful if we can get >>> it or he can fail in conveying his meaning to us if we can't get a >>> clue on what he meant. >>> >>> The fact that there might other (possibly better) ways of saying what >>> he wanted to say is relevant, but it's a separate discussion, I think. >>> >>> remo.d >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:37 PM, MorphemeAddict >>> wrote: >>> > Don't "soy" and "soya" mean the same thing? And don't they both refer >>> > both >>> > to the plant/legume and its seed/bean? >>> > >>> > stevo >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Jonathan Jones >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Not neccessarily. A soy bean is a legume. >>> >> >>> >> That said, "Black Pearl Soubean" is the only legume I could find via >>> >> Google or Wikipedia that has anything to do with jemna or tilju. >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:32 AM, MorphemeAddict >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Wouldn't "sobde" (soya) be part of the lujvo if it were 'soy bean'? >>> >>> >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Remo Dentato >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I got "soy bean" almost immediately (well, after having decomposed >>> >>>> the >>> >>>> lujvo :) ). Didn't know there was a "Black Pearl" variety. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jonathan Jones >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> > Well, the parts are gem/pearl-heavy-legume. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Apparently there's a kind of soybean called the "Black Pearl >>> >>>> > Soybean". >>> >>>> > Is >>> >>>> > that it? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Pierre Abbat >>> >>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> I just made up the word "jmetijdembi". Can you guess what it >>> >>>> >> means? >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> Pierre >>> >>>> >> -- >>> >>>> >> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do >>> >>>> >> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga >>> >>>> >> .icu'u la ma'atman. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> -- >>> >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> >>>> >> Google >>> >>>> >> Groups >>> >>>> >> "lojban" group. >>> >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>>> >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do >>> >>>> > zo'o >>> >>>> > (Come to the Dot Side! 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