From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCSj6_vBBoE-VpD8A@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 05 11:14:56 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QTHqe-00039a-RM; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:56 -0700 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf4446998qyk.16 for ; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=za8vUQZCpG/j8U2x4y5KsKzl275LxbvZzC5vZ3WBIXY=; b=B2K27EGqF0/ZeTNc+Iyj5Dw6d7esyOMFbaL6Rg9Df3YocfYB65jlDLDmjLc7zFB3+q aPld2zghNyyM8Jep9OkA/9sOFBn1WtnpD6EQjMVEtz0sSY0avjnK/iyT/daIoKhJDjY5 hijtaKL1p+9k5Wrh9z7XXTs2oSl62WO1GBJ88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hn59SulhXlFxyn6xdVhXeH56w3bm30uozmm+2aFXPD0cnpwl3qPild2txW+iai0tlP lv03YOWEPqtDwy4Nr78wOoWitdrhCvjlUVGZO3bOl+CGnnMtSo3mGxC93mNnU46uy59O GSf3pwpeGXYJ4UCIsysx8Ax1FMYKGgzjLODj8= Received: by 10.224.32.129 with SMTP id c1mr231056qad.40.1307297682738; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.187.145 with SMTP id cw17ls824054qab.2.gmail; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.211.201 with SMTP id gp9mr675157qab.2.1307297682127; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.211.201 with SMTP id gp9mr675156qab.2.1307297682117; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id fx39si3595987qcb.2.2011.06.05.11.14.40; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=8DePnL3b5nLqjqTFgPkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:41389] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7C/6D-00666-097CBED4; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:14:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC928A2BE for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:14:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] guess a lujvo Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:14:36 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201106042321.15877.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201106051414.37804.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 05 June 2011 11:57:03 Michael Turniansky wrote: > I'd guess "carob bean ", because the carat, the unit of weight for > gems comes from the Arabic for carob seed. > --gejyspa You are correct. I was reading the story of the prodigal son, who in his=20 wanderings took a job feeding pigs with =EA=E5=F1=E1=F4=E9=E1. This looks l= ike a diminutive=20 of =EA=E5=F1=E1=F2 (horn), but it means "carobs", and is translated "algarr= obas" in=20 Reina-Valera. It is the source of the Arabic word. Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.