From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEMHr1O8EGgRJ1LVP@googlegroups.com Sun Jun 12 14:55:25 2011 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QVsct-000078-CK; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:25 -0700 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf1888802pxi.16 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=OQUHD8EEBj/zIWHLz+vcL6r6DG/thIDUn4l8oPpCwtE=; b=6YxA9lJIoQnMIRVpq8ehXZaT2PB9a3lGbFhzP6BkJJItXMqY698uPamkk7DAJPhpfT yCwoNDdE+Lh4ymv1qgiRJJFQ0Q/cv6sbJgjQ99SiOQkJHAPO9rGzy2baPK4GFhuQ4wo1 a+acXialEhW2kfpssyXfwMGtcxIz0bxyYwl2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=zscuKRBUn9PHrXozNGaTtbV3auLdq1fdJgqIicvmGSX2PSTCVEDwby1tPA8a/9lstJ cHE2Tg1Ika5V7ogFPw1uESuTfMGrXA0+l0IKhQJSCIIWyoeF928AOcv6hIHExEhBKnAl lCuvlx13ht/scbDPGDYcJD0ecpYG4n83O0/+o= Received: by 10.68.6.130 with SMTP id b2mr631523pba.38.1307915713392; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.39.41 with SMTP id m9ls1144263pbk.2.gmail; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.30.36 with SMTP id p4mr943185pbh.42.1307915712532; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.30.36 with SMTP id p4mr943184pbh.42.1307915712518; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8si12027782pbc.0.2011.06.12.14.55.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QVscf-0008TU-Qs for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:55:09 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Anyone remember what lerfu strings are actually *for*? Message-ID: <20110612215509.GR9936@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110319191714.GO17248@digitalkingdom.org> <4DF520D5.6090205@kli.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4DF520D5.6090205@kli.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 04:25:57PM -0400, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > > wrote: > > > > > > Someone tried to do: > > > > rlpowell@chain> echo "panzi be ny ci mei" | camxes > > text > > BRIVLA > > gismu: panzi > > > > This doesn't work because it needs boi: > > > > Lerfu-strings are pro-sumti. Just like "ny." is a pro-sumti, and > "ny.ibu" or whatever, so is "ny. ci". Yes, I understand that, I just think it's horrible. The usefulness of "a number starts a new sumti" *far* outways the usefulness of being able to refer to C3PO without additional effort. However, see the Mandarin comment; that's potentially of at least *some* use, but honestly I think requiring an extra sumti or two in that case (i.e. wrap them in lo'u ... le'u) is perfectly reasonable. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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