From lojban+bncCK30vq5WENjY2e8EGgSyQ3u1@googlegroups.com Mon Jun 13 13:00:38 2011 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWDJK-0007qj-JO; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:38 -0700 Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22sf2291409pvc.16 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=V4px2ivDRDdLuLMuNzr99GKE2e6V0Mcpac9Sk0XSeHY=; b=O0mVHIcqir47PyGoWn327/8TvXZ/c737xoA2w0XdVAGWpzdrUeXy88VAF30aN0k5KC NdCwEsGX6BGPkySZ2ZkqBoo8i9Qf9WJAjG7jOCxpDYSZgJqzV67BTEpQazruTxN/MltO ujUa49SHY9T8oahEkwY4vZbthcZ67pH+mUHbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=CsG6a6TywnKqHI8i5395eU7hywfvX9f0iQcDEAnE/voLwLr/n8f6ItcLmTxHxoVElb zpRw0ff8S+E2c1KKzmCkd1J1Zs6K13uEwrObEmk+SvbeVS7nKmevO0BZJUBaUsx+ax7A tt84sXA+xjAGHCBKdm7lwvVOwSckBKIiQ/d2I= Received: by 10.142.143.12 with SMTP id q12mr742374wfd.62.1307995224802; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.13.233 with SMTP id k9ls1456099pbc.3.gmail; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.8.68 with SMTP id p4mr1104407pba.45.1307995224363; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.8.68 with SMTP id p4mr1104406pba.45.1307995224350; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10si14469816pbn.1.2011.06.13.13.00.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWDJ7-0007qU-V6 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:00:21 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Hey xorxes: I need some tutoring. Message-ID: <20110613200021.GW9936@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110613174139.GT9936@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Yes, ke'a, sorry. I'm trying to understand how "lo rozgu cu xunre" and "lo rozgu cu blabi" both make sense in xorlo, and what that implies, because apparently I've forgotten. -Robin On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 03:55:13PM -0400, John E. Clifford wrote: > I'm having some trouble understanding your issue. Once I assume > that 'ka'a' is a typo for 'ka'e' all your cited sentences seem not > only unproblematic but basic. What am I missing? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 13, 2011, at 13:41, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > So I'm getting back into some seriously Lojbanning (I'm talking in > > #jbopre pretty regularily, and almost entirely in Lojban), and > > something came up, which was "lo lojbo ka'a prenu", which seemed odd > > to me, and then I noticed the "lo rozgu cu xunre" example at > > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gadri > > > > So, I believe that "lo rozgu cu blabi" is also perfectly fine, and > > I'd like to explain (again, I know; I'm asking as an unreasonable > > favour :), either here or on IRC, how that works. > > > > In particular, is xorlo {lo rozgu} do'a like {su'o rozgu} except > > without the implications about existence and distributivity and so > > on? > > > > ta'o I thought of translating the above, but I've no idea what I > > mean by "In particular,", and I don't feel like disecting it right > > now; others should full free, though. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". 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