From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhDm4d7vBBoE2FPr2w@googlegroups.com Tue Jun 14 12:05:23 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QWYvQ-0007ek-SP; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:23 -0700 Received: by wya21 with SMTP id 21sf16367086wya.16 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GdpWVBvxF/tNNfTr8KkhgE77qReDLOccTcN8vvoLWbE=; b=DIzFHdNswd3Uwhg6cU6JBWz9R4+WqNT3FTIOCqp2DjJzBS8/7D367FXcpS7i5hnGOS 1z3Bb8iS1H9K0VqTH3dl5mQJC+FgTc2Swi9x0/AO8Qjg00XOz6DRSMRrmahXl+zWfXZT JG+/uXmKdzz6GXZ6fPPEMouxLpquHkk1soyjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; b=uTMkX8Ih/5INEIqJW1d3O3vdnmJCXo8CUW49RsYAaMrTF7Zf/m2Cd4RI0w50loLXOs 9UTpZOW9lQ7V3FQ/soiJc3w36pHsu8sD1duDJaaRU5rMdjA4jkEKYhzVAq1JqWkBrP6g FvXjSaLo4ehWjH+AdlMs9qWil06RehZ4OtCvI= Received: by 10.216.143.88 with SMTP id k66mr538596wej.8.1308078310334; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.25.35 with SMTP id y35ls780235eey.2.gmail; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.37.13 with SMTP id x13mr1690391eea.36.1308078308360; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.37.13 with SMTP id x13mr1690390eea.36.1308078308325; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (mail-bw0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4si4291233fab.0.2011.06.14.12.05.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.43; Received: by mail-bw0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 14so5816504bwz.2 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.139 with SMTP id d11mr298569bkr.41.1308078308116; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.51.202 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:05:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Hesitation sounds in natural langauge From: ".arpis." To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a42ce4c78704a5b0b60a --001636c5a42ce4c78704a5b0b60a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A friend of mine mentioned the following (with this book as a source: http://www.amazon.com/Most-Human-Talking-Computers-Teaches/dp/0385533063): Humans, naturally, when speaking, have *two* distinct hesitation sounds in almost all natural languages (English having uh and um), one of which is a short pause, during which the speaker is planning eir next words but intends to continue the utterance, and the other of which is a longer pause which invites interruption or assistance. I have never heard natural (not scripted) lojban conversations, and to the best of my knowledge, there is only one hesitation sound in lojban (ybu). Does anyone who knows more about this topic than I do have any comments? -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001636c5a42ce4c78704a5b0b60a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A friend of mine mentioned the following (with this book as a source: http://www.amazon.com/Most-Human-Talking-Computers-Teaches/dp/03855330= 63):

Humans, naturally, when speaking, have two distinct hesitation s= ounds in almost all natural languages (English having uh and um), one of wh= ich is a short pause, during which the speaker is planning eir next words b= ut intends to continue the utterance, and the other of which is a longer pa= use which invites interruption or assistance.

I have never heard natural (not scripted) lojban conversations, and to = the best of my knowledge, there is only one hesitation sound in lojban (ybu= ).

Does anyone who knows more about this topic than I do have any co= mments?

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