From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDX77rwBBoENddCoA@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 01 23:17:10 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QctVq-00082E-J7; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:17:10 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf3847576gwb.16 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:17:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3+hD/sk3T0Zc1sUxA262AQDQwCv/CZcJKO/sB9C0JPE=; b=GIBMIo0ByKsPxFQVnj1G4K77sxmFfZQfFXHynPvT9WmXCgOBVJEq0fbQVSydjwHA11 JL2s8dWqvsJgppq0DhIYzzJRM/fCtTBMOOZ2CuDIGwv1XaJ35A1CHtGJfxxXBv30Rpf8 FBgjc+oyVhbDXQBu4z9QBTahxiwnM29iegauQ= Received: by 10.236.81.230 with SMTP id m66mr434238yhe.50.1309587415702; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.71.197 with SMTP id i5ls4515ibj.3.gmail; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.146.130 with SMTP id j2mr1186420icv.101.1309587415047; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.146.130 with SMTP id j2mr1186419icv.101.1309587415032; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f177.google.com (mail-iy0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gh9si1607603icb.3.2011.07.01.23.16.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.177; Received: by iyn15 with SMTP id 15so4102337iyn.36 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.111.36 with SMTP id q36mr3374685ibp.142.1309587413452; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.195 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.195 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110702061357.GH8547@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110702023512.GF8547@digitalkingdom.org> <20110702061357.GH8547@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 00:16:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Is it a lie? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b917294c90504a71014d8 --0016363b917294c90504a71014d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, lying is deceptive, but it's not necessarily asshole-ish. :D to pu benji di'u fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi mu'o mi'e.aionys. On Jul 2, 2011 12:13 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" wrote: I don't see a significant distinction between "you are lying" and "you are being a deceptive asshole". -Robin On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 01:59:30AM -0400, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > That feels like a slippery slop... -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/):... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016363b917294c90504a71014d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, lying is deceptive, but it's not necessarily asshole-ish. :D

to pu benji di'u fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi

mu'o mi'e.aionys.

On Jul 2, 2011 12:13 AM, "Robin Lee Powel= l" <rlpowell@digital= kingdom.org> wrote:

I don't see a significant distinction= between "you are lying" and
"you are being a deceptive asshole".

-Robin


On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 01:59:30AM -0= 400, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> That feels like a slippery slop...

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