From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCK3eLwBBoERpWPKg@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 09 12:40:12 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfdNl-0004ib-T4; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:40:10 -0700 Received: by wyh13 with SMTP id 13sf5217034wyh.16 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PNeF/GWf8a8Q3v08L8sthnaoFZakF7MrJFCrBxFHzPs=; b=hgPiUwQUdXAU5KSlv3PXfR/Hj+ii9HgGVmJex0AB29xrdLaNGAzh9nMMZbUejh6hge PYly8I55/q0FCcL5rJ0vfCUFLrcsDIS+UuFsv3MV77Lk/TvQQQ4XRdFGxWJRAZFCiHbT zdASceIz6Tp5eu0rh4t/yUavWI6pIWm2AY9/w= Received: by 10.216.140.165 with SMTP id e37mr1234808wej.13.1310240394174; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.168.207 with SMTP id v15ls1482256wby.3.gmail; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.201 with SMTP id a9mr248733wba.9.1310240392907; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.6.201 with SMTP id a9mr248732wba.9.1310240392881; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com (mail-ww0-f41.google.com [74.125.82.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh14si10153783wbb.0.2011.07.09.12.39.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.41; Received: by wwi14 with SMTP id 14so1325126wwi.0 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.6.197 with SMTP id y47mr1733338wes.55.1310240392661; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.77 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.77 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201107090028.31171.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:39:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: xu dai From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302ad6982ccba104a7a81d72 --20cf302ad6982ccba104a7a81d72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not so sure I agree. "me" takes a sumti and turns it into a selbri. "lo" takes a selbri and turns it into a sumti. -(-x) is not "a kind of negative-ish x". It's just positive x. Period On Jul 9, 2011 3:36 PM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > mi cadzu = "I walk" > mi me lo cadzu = "I am a walker (pedestrian)" > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, ianek wrote: > >> >> >> On Jul 9, 1:17 pm, tijlan wrote: >> > As for "Is it the general feeling that I'm the one who go?", I would >> > more consider "ka'u pei mi klama" or precisely "xu kampu fa lo ka >> > sidbo fa lo nu mi me lo klama". >> >> I think i saw a {me lo}! >> Yes, I did! I did saw a {me lo}! >> >> How is {me lo broda} different in meaning from {broda}? 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Not so sure I agree.=A0 "me" takes a sumti and turns it into a= selbri.=A0 "lo" takes a selbri and turns it into a sumti.

-(-x)=A0 is not "a kind of negative-ish x".=A0 It's just p= ositive x.=A0 Period

On Jul 9, 2011 3:36 PM, "Jonathan Jones&quo= t; <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote= :
> mi cadzu =3D "I walk"
> mi m= e lo cadzu =3D "I am a walker (pedestrian)"
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
= >>
>> On Jul 9, 1:17 pm, tijlan <jbotij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As for "Is it the general feeling that I'm the one w= ho go?", I would
>> > more consider "ka'u pei mi = klama" or precisely "xu kampu fa lo ka
>> > sidbo fa = lo nu mi me lo klama".
>>
>> I think i saw a {me lo}!
>> Yes, I did! I did= saw a {me lo}!
>>
>> How is {me lo broda} different in m= eaning from {broda}? (other than
>> {me lo} sort of cuts x2, x3 et= c.)
>>
>> mu'o mi'e ianek
>>
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>
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> mu'o mi'= e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i = doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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