From lojban+bncCK30vq5WELL25_AEGgR94Qop@googlegroups.com Sun Jul 10 12:19:27 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfzXJ-0000of-28; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:27 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf2078415pzk.16 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=BsBEvVF+qMzHKP9h4Zqw20Qm3fIA72P8DmvK8MSYlpo=; b=gMFYtA9SS0PXvT3TCApIDGiKNXn0ikF8lVr36eNL6wtfourxmi/NuufKPtJSbo7SOy SIZqo8Xp8jsbmFFsVooWpr8zDngT21gu3oDGKPWP8BITYz0J4QWL4Df01jntF04z2jRb lUXh4ZWl1sM48jv7XE2S2V5TqdwogWTjYpsXw= Received: by 10.68.69.107 with SMTP id d11mr596448pbu.48.1310325554505; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.16.199 with SMTP id i7ls2151487pbd.3.gmail; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.33.161 with SMTP id s1mr945149pbi.80.1310325553315; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.33.161 with SMTP id s1mr945148pbi.80.1310325553305; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9si25280595pbc.2.2011.07.10.12.19.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfzX5-0000eX-Rf for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:19:11 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] UI affecting the previous word Message-ID: <20110710191911.GG18524@digitalkingdom.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:44:58PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote: > Does anyone know why the decision was made to make UI modify the > preceding word instead of the followimg word like so many other > constructs do? Seems like if UI did that then the problem could > be solved by doing "doi alyn xuku do klama" As far as I know *only* ba'e works like that; what do you mean by "so many other constructs"? As for why it was done that way, I have absolutely no idea, ask Bob. :) For me it seems *far* more natural in almost all cases. Most attitudinals (.ui, .u'u, .e'e, etc) are afterthought to me. I only have trouble with {xu} these days, I think? I used to have trouble with {po'o}, but only because in *English* I say "I have only one book". -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.