From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCq-uzwBBoErifsaQ@googlegroups.com Mon Jul 11 11:13:14 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QgKyj-0004bD-Or; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:13:13 -0700 Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12sf4513978yie.16 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:13:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0Q0nJUCAqv1GtK7x/gvv4Lk8JNySoFMCA8oC66RZInk=; b=Mle3592FebPx7mYXtY6h5p4rnKSzdisx54GrBdd3EwuJoSqEVfcIuyrVj8OfBx9ca9 2IZlQzNirOkxDz1lvmXd744jCqScDoja4OS1Bvpbc+KdSret2PnzXmSIpWkrAGDgR5B1 uloc5u3osbn1Ai8T3vPpeCaltssBGJGEb93Z0= Received: by 10.146.7.15 with SMTP id 15mr204036yag.14.1310407978939; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.104 with SMTP id ev40ls3350099ibb.0.gmail; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.29.69 with SMTP id q5mr875325icc.6.1310407977093; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.29.69 with SMTP id q5mr875324icc.6.1310407977070; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wt15si5286657icb.1.2011.07.11.11.12.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-iw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 3so5227676iwn.18 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.28.72 with SMTP id l8mr4639867ibc.194.1310407976566; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.11 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:12:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110711173757.GV18524@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:12:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Non-suck android dictionary software? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f0f02f43e8b04a7cf21e3 --0015176f0f02f43e8b04a7cf21e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hand editing worked. The fixed dict is at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31955482/jbo-eng_simplified-gismu.dsl for anyone who cares. Unfortunately, it only goes lojban->english, however, it's useful for searching specific places. (Try searching "lo te vecnu", for example.) On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I take that back. I am able to look at the .dsl using notepad++, so I can > see how it's formatted, and therefore am able to make a .dsl by hand. I've > already added the missing entries, I just need to test it, now. > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> I don't think Fora can read .tsv, nor do I need that, anyway. I am the one >> who created that, after all. I have my own copy of the source on Google >> Docs. >> >> What I need is a complete .dsl dict, which I do not know how to create. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Robin Lee Powell < >> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/anki_flashcards/ >>> >>> In particular, everything is in >>> http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/anki_flashcards/smartfm.tsv >>> , although the [sound:...] stuff would need to be trimmed for most >>> uses. >>> >>> -Robin >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27:38AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> > I think it's more an error in the conversion than it is a lack of the >>> data, >>> > considering what's missing. >>> > >>> > That said, I personally would like to have the full set, as I consider >>> that >>> > list to be very useful, especially the sumti places. >>> > >>> > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi >>> > mu'o mi'e.aionys. >>> > On Jul 11, 2011 10:52 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" < >>> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > It's not really needed, actually, but I can provide the rest of the >>> > > data if someone wants it. >>> > > >>> > > -Robin >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:43:58AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> > > > The "simplified gismu" dict, taken from the smart.fm lessons, is >>> > > > broken. It has ~1700 entries, which IIRC is only a third of the >>> > > > complete list. >>> > > > >>> > > > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi >>> > > > >>> > > > mu'o mi'e.aionys. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Jul 11, 2011 10:21 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" < >>> > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Fora Dictionary. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > I'm still not happy with it because it *only* searches the word >>> > > > > fields, and it has to be a complete match; I'd really like a >>> global >>> > > > > text search. Other than that, though, it's fine, and the >>> > > > > dictionaries najrut has provided are sufficient, used in >>> > > > > combination, that it works pretty well. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -Robin >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 02:40:06AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> > > > >> So, which app did you end up using? >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Robin Lee Powell < >>> > > > >> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > Finally got around to doing this. Had to move them into a zip >>> and >>> > > > >> > then unzip the zip :P to make everything work, and then add >>> them >>> > one >>> > > > >> > at a time :P, none of which is your fault. :) >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > The files themselves worked fine. >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > -Robin >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 02:25:31AM -0700, najrut wrote: >>> > > > >> > > https://sites.google.com/site/slovlacukt/file-cabinet >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Please check whether those files can be opened by Android >>> apps. >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > -- >>> > > > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > Google >>> > > > Groups >>> > > > >> > "lojban" group. >>> > > > >> > > To post to this group, send email to >>> lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> > > > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > > >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > > > >> > > For more options, visit this group at >>> > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> > > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > -- >>> > > > >> > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic >>> future. >>> > > > >> > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this >>> parrot >>> > > > >> > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is >>> false" >>> > > > >> > is "na nei". 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My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015176f0f02f43e8b04a7cf21e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hand editing worked. The fixed dict is at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31955482/j= bo-eng_simplified-gismu.dsl for anyone who cares. Unfortunately, it onl= y goes lojban->english, however, it's useful for searching specific = places. (Try searching "lo te vecnu", for example.)

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gma= il.com> wrote:
I take that back. I am able to look at the .dsl using notepad++, so I can s= ee how it's formatted, and therefore am able to make a .dsl by hand. I&= #39;ve already added the missing entries, I just need to test it, now.


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think Fora can read .tsv, nor do I need that, anyway. I am the = one who created that, after all. I have my own copy of the source on Google= Docs.

What I need is a complete .dsl dict, which I do not know how = to create.


On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Robin Lee = Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/anki_flashcards/

In particular, everything is in
http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/anki_fla= shcards/smartfm.tsv
, although the [sound:...] stuff would need to be trimmed for most
uses.

-Robin

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27:38AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I think it's more an error in the conversion than it is a lack of = the data,
> considering what's missing.
>
> That said, I personally would like to have the full set, as I consider= that
> list to be very useful, especially the sumti places.
>
> to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
> mu'o mi'e.aionys.
> On Jul 11, 2011 10:52 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" <rlpowell@digitalkingd= om.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's not really needed, actually, but I can provide the rest = of the
> > data if someone wants it.
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:43:58AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > The "simplified gismu" dict, taken from the smart.fm lessons, is
> > > broken. It has ~1700 entries, which IIRC is only a third of = the
> > > complete list.
> > >
> > > to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
> > >
> > > mu'o mi'e.aionys.
> > >
> > > On Jul 11, 2011 10:21 AM, "Robin Lee Powell" <<= br> > rlpow= ell@digitalkingdom.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fora Dictionary.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still not happy with it because it *only* searc= hes the word
> > > > fields, and it has to be a complete match; I'd real= ly like a global
> > > > text search. Other than that, though, it's fine, an= d the
> > > > dictionaries najrut has provided are sufficient, used i= n
> > > > combination, that it works pretty well.
> > > >
> > > > -Robin
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 02:40:06AM -0600, Jonathan Jone= s wrote:
> > > >> So, which app did you end up using?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Robin Lee Powell &= lt;
> > > >> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Finally got around to doing this. Had to move = them into a zip and
> > > >> > then unzip the zip :P to make everything work,= and then add them
> one
> > > >> > at a time :P, none of which is your fault. :)<= br> > > > >> >
> > > >> > The files themselves worked fine.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Robin
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 02:25:31AM -0700, najr= ut wrote:
> > > >> > > https://sites.google.com/site/sl= ovlacukt/file-cabinet
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Please check whether those files can be o= pened by Android apps.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > You received this message because you are= subscribed to the
> Google
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> > > >> > "lojban" group.
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> > > >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> > > >> > > For more options, visit this group at
> > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den= .
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.=
> > > >> > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "thi= s parrot
> > > >> > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi= ", but "this sentence is false"
> > > >> > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digi= talkingdom.org/rlp/
> > > >> >
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> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
> > > >>
> > > >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.= luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> > > >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )=
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> > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot<= br> > > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", b= ut "this sentence is false"
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> > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "t= his sentence is false"
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--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cm= ima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e&#= 39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




--
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