From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDbnb3wBBoEtLa3rA@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 02 10:01:30 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd3ZO-0008Vv-SN; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:29 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf4391154gwb.16 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ADi9Azed+jCT/76lIWcQQGLiGMTXeLnmxHy5Thx2LtU=; b=zuPFrQM6e2a/Z2qqj470oS9xWucGfFDbE6kDESjVKDngcMEDVXht3fBzjZ6pIVs57S zSlDy6mSJE1VbX0FQV6YTJeRYn0iPdq3LKk7lIek8oYi8YubxupQHphOsNTm9u2019HA 5Qm0rpUWvUtiF+NHV1zMPCMK8CJw0o19ok4SA= Received: by 10.150.132.21 with SMTP id f21mr678154ybd.15.1309626075526; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.193.148 with SMTP id du20ls5628ibb.2.gmail; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.141.4 with SMTP id m4mr1267371icu.84.1309626074614; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.141.4 with SMTP id m4mr1267370icu.84.1309626074310; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gh9si1765571icb.3.2011.07.02.10.01.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by iwi5 with SMTP id 5so5597515iwi.35 for ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.27.228 with SMTP id j36mr3977320ibc.117.1309626074118; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.13.195 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <699c411b-8021-4e8e-8860-8fc6d51eed5a@v12g2000vby.googlegroups.com> References: <6e165bbb-5606-4715-a46b-ac655ab89dd3@e21g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> <699c411b-8021-4e8e-8860-8fc6d51eed5a@v12g2000vby.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:01:14 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Guessing the name of my country From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517740dbcefbc2404a71914e9 --001517740dbcefbc2404a71914e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you really want to use a lujvo, you could translate the meaning. For example, "Jonathan" is a Jewish word meaning {lo se dunda be lo cevni}. On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:19 AM, =C1lvaro Vallejo wro= te: > coi rodo > > I though I would get replies in my email but I had not configured this > Google service to do so. That's why I did not thank you before... > > THANK YOU very much for your replies. I learned a lot on Lojban logics > for doing lujvos from your comments. I thought I could describe > Colombia as the "most Northern" country because 1. it is the one with > the highest Northern latitude in South America and 2. it is the one > immediately before Central America (and America is sort of a line of > countries)... but it is clear this did not work at all. > > Very good guess from Craig, thank you and you are right, Alan. > > .u'i .i funny description of U.S. from Jonathan but I'm not sure how > much time this description will fit... > > Coming back to the issue of finding a Lojbanic name for my country: it > is really difficult to find a neutral, non-biased characteristic, > since it is a mix of five contrasting regions (Pacific, Caribbean, > Andean, Amazonian and Eastern flat-lands). Probably we are well know > because of coffee and another addictive substance, but I wouldn't like > at all use these for naming my country... beyond that, I can't find > any description that fits us... so... the best option seems to be > using a cneme ... la kolombias, maybe?? but then... how to express the > nationality? > > mu'o mi'e la .ALbaros > > > On Jul 2, 6:48 am, tijlan wrote: > > berketygu'e > > > > Given that > > 1) this lujvo doesn't specify whether the referent is to be single or > > multiple and > > 2) multiple countries can be described as "berti zei ketco", > > my guess would be that it means whatever South-American countries that > > are northern. > > > > mu'o mi'e tijlan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001517740dbcefbc2404a71914e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you really want to use a lujvo, you could translate the meaning. For exa= mple, "Jonathan" is a Jewish word meaning {lo se dunda be lo cevn= i}.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:19 AM, =C1l= varo Vallejo <a= vallejor@gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo

I though I would get replies in my email but I had not configured this
Google service to do so. That's why I did not thank you before...

THANK YOU very much for your replies. I learned a lot on Lojban logics
for doing lujvos from your comments. I thought I could describe
Colombia as the "most Northern" country because 1. it is the one = with
the highest Northern latitude in South America and 2. it is the one
immediately before Central America (and America is sort of a line of
countries)... but it is clear this did not work at all.

Very good guess from Craig, thank you and you are right, Alan.

.u'i .i funny description of U.S. from Jonathan but I'm not sure ho= w
much time this description will fit...

Coming back to the issue of finding a Lojbanic name for my country: it
is really difficult to find a neutral, non-biased characteristic,
since it is a mix of five contrasting regions (Pacific, Caribbean,
Andean, Amazonian and Eastern flat-lands). Probably we are well know
because of coffee and another addictive substance, but I wouldn't like<= br> at all use these for naming my country... beyond that, I can't find
any description that fits us... so... the best option seems to be
using a cneme ... la kolombias, maybe?? but then... how to express the
nationality?

mu'o mi'e la .ALbaros


On Jul 2, 6:48=A0am, tijlan <jbot= ij...@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0 berketygu'e
>
> Given that
> 1) this lujvo doesn't specify whether the referent is to be single= or
> multiple and
> 2) multiple countries can be described as "berti zei ketco",=
> my guess would be that it means whatever South-American countries that=
> are northern.
>
> mu'o mi'e tijlan

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