From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBDE7JbxBBoEoojxeA@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 19 09:58:59 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjDZ6-0007Oi-0O; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:58:03 -0700 Received: by yxj20 with SMTP id 20sf5046439yxj.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=dQcCEgv73IUMSaXlrHb0ak/QB3NDfmvjQUh12EOR5oM=; b=Fa2RUYyrO2L6CfLvlzmJRiXTpeaUs905ByrkMq7bpShXkhA5bDpiKXSFs5u84x7MxP l4eX/HxgI0Me/juNC+vD6NLyZPniplPKa+bVZwnnsAVt7HVpbVEclVfGw3ODRwfs43aT JpmSFPjG+uHwD44f4lR78ZIA75LFTiSPK9Xug= Received: by 10.236.153.231 with SMTP id f67mr976732yhk.5.1311094340707; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.83.11 with SMTP id d11ls2628319ibl.1.gmail; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.173.130 with SMTP id r2mr3609178icz.56.1311094339342; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.173.130 with SMTP id r2mr3609177icz.56.1311094339331; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g20si2808826icm.5.2011.07.19.09.52.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.172 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.210.172; Received: by mail-iy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 7so6568642iye.17 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.50.202 with SMTP id vf10mr8491632icb.393.1311094338111; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm3721646iba.55.2011.07.19.09.52.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:52:13 -0600 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Translating << performance errors >> in Lojban Message-ID: <20110719165213.GJ55609@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.172 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline You can say ungrammatical/incorrect things in front of si and sa, and si/sa will erase them. You have to be careful when the mispronounciation results in multiple words--you need to speak the correct number of si or make sure that if you accidentally utter a word in a grammatical class that is the same that you want to back up to that you include the correct number of sa: # correct: ro da borda si broda => ro da broda # incorrect, requires two si: ro da boda si broda => ro da bo broda # correct: ro da borda sa do broda => ro do broda # incorrect, requires two sa: ro da boda sa do broda => ro da bo do broda -Alan On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:43:58AM -0700, Escape Landsome wrote: > Hi > > A performance error is when you mispronounce one or several words. > > Assume for instance you're Winnie-the-Pooh and want to say "elephant", > but this results in "ephalant"... > > What is the lojbanic way to render performance errors ? How to > translate Pooh's << ephalant >> ? > > -- .esk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.