From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBC18ZbxBBoEnMU44g@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 19 10:09:58 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjDjG-0001VJ-4d; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:09:02 -0700 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf9281225wwf.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s3g2SvGO8+xVwu8lGTYCnPviI78eKWszk6feK+r2shI=; b=yacFqK3gi/A8cvVTkLDgjKqcPkw8P0umnwFaP+dFZPZKuF9StcRLt4evNRDYr2Lb2W nP19KUo/Waj/bXjC1RuHgAHrQQh57hpCXIAeoe+PLXrVNoM3hjrcy3gGL7PsYzjDpeko iwWlZUF0ws6URRzvgpqlptdQS1yan0IeJFcb4= Received: by 10.216.180.10 with SMTP id i10mr3088268wem.21.1311094965899; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.168.207 with SMTP id v15ls1837831wby.3.gmail; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.208.81 with SMTP id gb17mr532212wbb.9.1311094965232; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.208.81 with SMTP id gb17mr532210wbb.9.1311094965214; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l4si5671354wbo.3.2011.07.19.10.02.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by wwf22 with SMTP id 22so3169149wwf.18 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.145.149 with SMTP id p21mr6470269wej.91.1311094964115; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.13 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:02:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110719165213.GJ55609@alice.local> References: <20110719165213.GJ55609@alice.local> From: Luke Bergen Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Translating << performance errors >> in Lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do you understand "sa" to work such that {roda boda sa do broda} =3D> {roda bo do broda}? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:52 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > You can say ungrammatical/incorrect things in front of si and sa, and > si/sa will erase them. =A0You have to be careful when the mispronounciati= on > results in multiple words--you need to speak the correct number of > si or make sure that if you accidentally utter a word in a grammatical > class that is the same that you want to back up to that you include > the correct number of sa: > > # correct: > =A0ro da borda si broda =3D> ro da broda > # incorrect, requires two si: > =A0ro da boda si broda =3D> ro da bo broda > > # correct: > =A0ro da borda sa do broda =3D> ro do broda > # incorrect, requires two sa: > =A0ro da boda sa do broda =3D> ro da bo do broda > > -Alan > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 09:43:58AM -0700, Escape Landsome wrote: >> Hi >> >> A performance error is when you mispronounce one or several words. >> >> Assume for instance you're Winnie-the-Pooh and want to say "elephant", >> but this results in "ephalant"... >> >> What is the lojbanic way to render performance errors ? =A0 How to >> translate Pooh's << ephalant >> ? >> >> -- .esk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loj= ban?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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