From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCL-JbxBBoE-FslIQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 19 10:23:32 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjDwx-0001tH-66; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:22:37 -0700 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf9296728wwf.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:17:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zN4SREFaSSzeGoJ0KzVGYRGa/ehDrOPOzeocs5xvluU=; b=FklUlGHmxjlOF8xEkN0NPgzIlpvEjROq00RZaCn8/0+z3FIVn/4bKVfaqPOMVZ62Ld 9Bicr7s8DCKnqgPuN9qiS2/cBFQcwpx1UQ3keQxU381ZA1pbmQBMtKr+l9qg/8BTt099 Z0YnaQreBgzgZeU7/DFfHITIlWSW43nGr/zWA= Received: by 10.216.140.140 with SMTP id e12mr447077wej.11.1311095819267; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.153.168 with SMTP id k40ls1839985wbw.0.gmail; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.55.16 with SMTP id s16mr615998wbg.11.1311095818312; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.55.16 with SMTP id s16mr615997wbg.11.1311095818286; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com (mail-wy0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si5684661wbp.2.2011.07.19.10.16.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.169; Received: by mail-wy0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 36so3443062wyg.0 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.145.149 with SMTP id p21mr6481822wej.91.1311095818102; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.13 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:16:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1a31142c-73c8-45fd-ac25-fd6cd9e4caca@g2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:16:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] How to translate special emphasis on a word ("terming") To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm, I'm not sure. I think it would depend on the context. I usually interpret {bi'unai} as something like "the whatever that we were talking about" and sometimes that forces me to think back on all the "whatevers" that we've talked about. So it wouldn't work if you wanted to compare "the Dog" against "ordinary dogs" because {bi'unai} COULD be interpreted as talking about "ordinary dogs". On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Escape Landsome wrote= : > 2011/7/19 Luke Bergen : >> you could use {bi'unai}. =A0e.g. {lo bi'unai gerku} is a way of saying >> something akin to "the dog (the one we we've been talking about)" > > Would this work even if that's a dog we are talking about, but maybe > in another sections of the book, or even only *way* later ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.