From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARDth5fxBBoEC9Zwmw@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 19 10:56:49 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjETV-0004bD-4p; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:55:53 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf227657fxd.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bLxWERQzCIfPOGw+SSyRMqS1woUoGk3fQwlFSJioLZU=; b=HjI8MS/vaGlkIhTk3RXCUofVTHgwsfWxMyt4r48waWXX72v66CuU00uevpwy/baGHN V/S8gZ0TkDlKocuSVQo9TDBDKR4CJL4VcmiwoKaHLynmsXTLY4n9qn/kUBfVS3PlwCtv S148SgnpBNOVzU61MCLud+OgMLnf8b3NVwWcg= Received: by 10.223.159.202 with SMTP id k10mr2259932fax.27.1311097837139; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.133.90 with SMTP id e26ls507688bkt.0.gmail; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.8.77 with SMTP id g13mr164606bkg.22.1311097835631; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.8.77 with SMTP id g13mr164605bkg.22.1311097835607; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4si1422232fao.0.2011.07.19.10.50.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by mail-fx0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 6so382563fxe.31 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.26.70 with SMTP id d6mr12091667fac.78.1311097835414; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.93.203 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:50:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173fef80bee41b04a86fc012 --0015173fef80bee41b04a86fc012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All of them at the same time? That's just not going to happen; that's a level and type of ambiguity Lojban won't put up with. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Escape Landsome wrote: > > le nu na facki fi le danfu > > > > (Note that there are a variety of ways to write the latter, depending on > exactly which sort of "not" you have in mind; such as finding things, but > not that which is the answer, or not finding anything at all, or finding > something interesting but not the answer, or finding an answer not to the > Question...) > > This is quite complicated, because it may be all of these cases. I > mean, is there a way to translate all of these possibilities in a > minimalist way ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015173fef80bee41b04a86fc012 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All of them at the same time? That's just not going to happen; that'= ;s a level and type of ambiguity Lojban won't put up with.

mu= 9;o mi'e .latros.

On Tue, Jul 19, 201= 1 at 1:47 PM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0le nu na facki fi= le danfu
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> (Note that there are a variety of ways to write the latter, depending = on exactly which sort of "not" you have in mind; such as finding = things, but not that which is the answer, or not finding anything at all, o= r finding something interesting but not the answer, or finding an answer no= t to the Question...)

This is quite complicated, because it may be all of these cases. =A0 = I
mean, is there a way to translate all of these possibilities in a
minimalist way ?

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