From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC3kJfxBBoEVxYvMQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 19 11:14:22 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QjElB-0007MG-R7; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:13:27 -0700 Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31sf4842045qyk.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=uBEjeSzrmwdHNub5XJVV6EQ9Pe3L5gaP47RCUPhksVQ=; b=kdJ5IH1/3d2FumEcP6ZADz6wmDHX284QW5hJQz5C66uAYadsfHQSpVX0CHXx6yLHXA trZxKDEfKcyusBXi8jBhQOT6Nw5EtrBGXZ8Me6pcgiiClIxjtWgouaFDciPj0yvlQ9iS Tccikk3mNSDn1pe4MZX2/W/fH4r9NvRPAp7O0= Received: by 10.229.61.71 with SMTP id s7mr904003qch.31.1311098935377; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.174.3 with SMTP id r3ls550982qaz.1.gmail; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.203.133 with SMTP id fi5mr7734091qab.20.1311098934975; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.203.133 with SMTP id fi5mr7734090qab.20.1311098934966; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z32si4596114qcd.1.2011.07.19.11.08.52; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=hpLdozcFzgUA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=XQOKkmXrPu0T4m5d3bcA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:36915] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AB/C5-00666-438C52E4; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:08:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362846193 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:08:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:08:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107191408.50207.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 19 July 2011 13:54:29 Ian Johnson wrote: > But, I can give some of these: > lo nu na facki fi le danfu > An event of not finding [an answer to] the question. This says nothing > about whether any finding of anything else happens. > lo nu facki fi na'e le danfu > An event of finding [an answer to] something other than the question > This asserts that finding does happen, but that it does *not* involve the > question > lo nu na facki fi da > This asserts that no finding happens (assuming {da} isn't already bound i= n > some fashion). I would say "(nu) facki lo danfu". mi facki le danfu le preti =3D I find th= e=20 answer to the question. In general, I think that titles (of sections, books, etc.) should be brivla= or=20 selbri ("preti" and "nu preti" are both selbri). Of course, some titles are= =20 proper nouns, and should be rendered as sumti. By the way, it's "reirbroda". "reibroda" falls apart. You could also=20 say "comrei", "reidza", and a few others. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.