From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhCS1KPxBBoE1cl-Vg@googlegroups.com Thu Jul 21 20:16:23 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qk6A6-0000j6-Qu; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:15:28 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf2442623fxd.16 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Jn7gGQ6ONsgR++mvaObite4wy61rrHO6BecXkb+C12I=; b=fpebbopdDrwhFOo8qYKGejvUimza6xxMHM++dM3Yi7qqJRLzN18wTN3L/m2Yn+4hXb BT/bSOyTyuwrYJGUO9jI60LS8GKa0gl5Q0Ed0hrQoK8oy43n/JmAEPhDFYG10L2GFE4P CH/bisgTxkUZyCPZF9tWILbjWqJxnrMMoLfNU= Received: by 10.223.65.201 with SMTP id k9mr260622fai.4.1311304210818; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.11.11 with SMTP id r11ls853371bkr.1.gmail; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.139.89 with SMTP id d25mr34997bku.18.1311304209571; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.139.89 with SMTP id d25mr34996bku.18.1311304209560; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h17si895823fac.1.2011.07.21.20.10.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.54; Received: by mail-fx0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 4so4110559fxe.41 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.74 with SMTP id q10mr252680bkf.348.1311304209395; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.70.196 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:10:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Meaning of multiple negations From: ".arpis." To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99c9197ede304a89fcdb0 --0016e6d99c9197ede304a89fcdb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I remember there was a discussion about it a bit ago, but I don't remember the resolution (Or if there even was one). e.g. {mi na cusku da de di} -> I didn't say anything to anyone [via any medium] does {mi na cusku noda de di} mean the same or the negation of above? IIRC, as I understood the CLL, it means something more like "There is nothing for which I haven't told it to someone [via some medium]" -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e6d99c9197ede304a89fcdb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I remember there was a discussion about it a bit ago, but I don't remember the resolution (Or if there even was one).

e.g.
{mi na cusku da de di} -> I didn't say anything to anyone [via any medium]
does {mi na cusku noda de di} mean the same or the negation of above?

IIRC, as I understood the CLL, it means something more like "There is nothing for which I haven't told it to someone [via some medium]"

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