From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDy26fxBBoEoTBcTQ@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 22 14:39:12 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QkNR7-0001UG-9f; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:39:11 -0700 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2sf1270784vws.16 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5CfVcFkDFgEd4wUtSY8tm2Eheb6pI4rknPSBcgF7wxE=; b=3JwjyyUkRWNwj7jbpwsrlrzCAk02LBa/ZgHApl6p2GmNxS612pk0bUK70x4LgQY4vw 2CAMuFWcjW/DOA93kLVNQiwaOaX4/6XqLPEab5Zn1uqGfKOMP4vWRYtxHQ8LKfogUrTU yTpIV0amHRaaQ5WWUXEl1lNGfjGug38G2qIRc= Received: by 10.220.209.199 with SMTP id gh7mr346815vcb.48.1311370738909; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.161.199 with SMTP id xu7ls1014933vdb.0.gmail; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.161 with SMTP id dt1mr386527vdb.8.1311370737872; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.96.161 with SMTP id dt1mr386526vdb.8.1311370737863; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f51.google.com (mail-vw0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v20si2217742vdu.2.2011.07.22.14.38.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.51; Received: by mail-vw0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 20so2483953vws.24 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.107.38 with SMTP id gz6mr2051367vdb.445.1311370737585; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.111.198 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:38:57 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Meaning of multiple negations From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, .arpis. wrote: > So is this something that has a correct and accepted and confusing answer, > or is this something still under active discussion? If by "this" you mean multiple negations, it has a clear answer: na na = ja'a. Or, as in your example: naku no da = naku naku su'o da = [ja'a ku] su'o da. But if by "this" you mean the scope of "na", it has a correct and simple answer, but not official, and another answer that is incorrect, confusing and official. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.