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On Jul 22, 2011, at 19:22, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess I'm unsure as to how far-reaching the implications of "na na =3D =
ja'a" are...
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> If I say, e.g. {noda node bacru}, does this become {naku su'oda naku su'o=
de bacru} which becomes {naku naku roda su'ode bacru} which becomes {roda s=
u'ode bacru} or more simply {roda de bacru}?
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> Does "No one made no sound." mean "Everyone made some sound."?
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> 2011/7/22 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> > So is this something that has a correct and accepted and confusing answ=
er,
> > or is this something still under active discussion?
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> If by "this" you mean multiple negations, it has a clear answer: na na =
=3D ja'a.
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> Or, as in your example: naku no da =3D naku naku su'o da =3D [ja'a ku] su=
'o da.
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> But if by "this" you mean the scope of "na", it has a correct and
> simple answer, but not official, and another answer that is incorrect,
> confusing and official.
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Yes<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div=
><br>On Jul 22, 2011, at 19:22, ".arpis." &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64+=
jbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><=
div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>I guess I'm unsure as to how far-r=
eaching the implications of "na na =3D ja'a" are...<div><br></div><div>If I=
 say, e.g. {noda node bacru}, does this become {naku su'oda naku su'ode bac=
ru} which becomes {naku naku roda su'ode bacru} which becomes {roda su'ode =
bacru} or more simply {roda de bacru}?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Does "No one made no sound." mean "Everyone made some s=
ound."?</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/7/22 Jorge Llamb=EDas=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com"><a href=3D"m=
ailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a></a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1=
2:40 PM, .arpis. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64%2Bjbobau@gmail.com"><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a></=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; So is this something that has a correct and accepted and confusing ans=
wer,<br>
&gt; or is this something still under active discussion?<br>
<br>
</div>If by "this" you mean multiple negations, it has a clear answer: na n=
a =3D ja'a.<br>
<br>
Or, as in your example: naku no da =3D naku naku su'o da =3D [ja'a ku] su'o=
 da.<br>
<br>
But if by "this" you mean the scope of "na", it has a correct and<br>
simple answer, but not official, and another answer that is incorrect,<br>
confusing and official.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu'o mi'e xorxes<br>
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