From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhC7p6vxBBoEp-lo2A@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 23 06:59:48 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qkcjt-0006YB-Ii; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:48 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf3830274gwb.16 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jpcUd4wruOhLTuIO1zkj2CgTanN7tBiL9KVxLaHnS6o=; b=6EBdQJmREY+EMFgrNvbngzFpWNymln0N6YwqsVxCv9ZEJGUclLzwzpTfuUT5Rv7Wle E52iyrjYO0muMv9UzDyGHyVeKRAHpwliOwgFXcOm/cE5pXHcR3cNC2vNgbDzrVPjJtzs 2YyLSRvqyjGGI+2S89urLM5tAU7WlY5fpA22E= Received: by 10.236.165.7 with SMTP id d7mr176181yhl.1.1311429563374; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.26.2 with SMTP id d2ls1428650agj.4.gmail; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.182.74 with SMTP id n50mr1400545yhm.110.1311429562265; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.182.74 with SMTP id n50mr1400544yhm.110.1311429562253; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f170.google.com (mail-gy0-f170.google.com [209.85.160.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y16si921570ybi.2.2011.07.23.06.59.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.170; Received: by gyb13 with SMTP id 13so1824644gyb.15 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.225.6 with SMTP id x6mr1574419wfg.55.1311429562082; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.60.9 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:58:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Meaning of multiple negations To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/7/22 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > > That in itself wouldn't be a problem. More troublesome is that "full > bridi scope" is not well defined. What would you say are the relative > scopes of "su'o", "gi'e" and "na" in: > > =A0 su'o prenu cu ricfu gi'e na gleki > > (I say that means "su'o da poi prenu zo'u ge da ricfu gi da na gleki" > but that puts "na" within the scope of both "su'o" and "gi'e", so no > "full bridi scope" there.) Maybe I'm missing something, because these conversations always make me feel like I don't even know how to speak Lojban, but isn't the "full bridi" that the {na} there has scope over just the embedded one that comes after {gi'e} and before the first elided {vau}? mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.