From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCQi6zxBBoEZO8RUQ@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 23 10:32:14 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qkg3f-0006Vj-FQ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:32:14 -0700 Received: by wyh13 with SMTP id 13sf6055522wyh.16 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=n9U8XEzWat/FNSaC2WGGQAFcVTpJ1W/ksRqqIilBaTU=; b=xytsAI6VOgVhjeJDwNFQXmYRjp/6tfPpJnzYOu40uRYWlKgYeT5XJf+hqjalSWW24h Vwqc3n8aUxc7UzANRdjagHt1FTgw1XxuFfNZA0AtGn8HCj4rdpw7wuqehB8f1teJYktu OSsRqinLbbHeeXKJoK6DQqE21k8aF8+gtfYlI= Received: by 10.216.14.154 with SMTP id d26mr1458289wed.12.1311442320250; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:32:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.207.136 with SMTP id n8ls682296weo.0.gmail; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.30.17 with SMTP id j17mr43843wea.1.1311442319524; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.30.17 with SMTP id j17mr43842wea.1.1311442319506; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c25si3894873wbp.1.2011.07.23.10.31.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Received: by wyh21 with SMTP id 21so2699628wyh.24 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.29.133 with SMTP id i5mr2260175wea.61.1311442319245; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.13 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Luke Bergen Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la, la'o, la'e To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db5bc89500e304a8bff5e3 --0016e6db5bc89500e304a8bff5e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only thing about that first thing that strikes me as weird is that "la cribe" seems like it should eventually come out to something like "zo'e *po= i *se cmene zo cribe" Shouldn't names be restrictive and not merely indicative? 2011/7/23 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, tijlan wrote: >> Is this correct: >> >> la cribe >> =3D la'o zo cribe zo >> =3D la'e zo cribe noi cmene >> =3D zo'e noi se cmene zo cribe (and not: da poi se cmene zo cribe) > > I would agree with that, yes. > >> Also, do you agree with this CLL19.10 statement: >> >> A rough equivalent of ``la'o'' might be ``la me zoi'' > > Very rough, because "la me zoi gy John gy" is actually more like "la'o > cizra me zoi gy John gy cizra". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e6db5bc89500e304a8bff5e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only thing about that first thing that strikes me as weird is that &quo= t;la cribe" seems like it should eventually come out to something like= "zo'e poi se cmene zo cribe"

Shoul= dn't names be restrictive and not merely indicative?

2011/7/23 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, tijl= an <jbotijlan@gmail.com> w= rote:
>> Is this correct:
>>
>> la cribe
>> =3D = la'o zo cribe zo
>> =3D la'e zo cribe noi cmene
>>= ; =3D zo'e noi se cmene zo cribe (and not: da poi se cmene zo cribe) >
> I would agree with that, yes.
>
>> Also, do you agree w= ith this CLL19.10 statement:
>>
>> =A0A rough equivalent = of ``la'o'' might be ``la me zoi''
>
> Very= rough, because "la me zoi gy John gy" is actually more like &quo= t;la'o
> cizra me zoi gy John gy cizra".
>
> mu'o mi'e= xorxes
>
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