From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDQqMbxBBoEttzcRw@googlegroups.com Thu Jul 28 09:54:53 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QmTrG-0005YG-U1; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:53 -0700 Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12sf3887335yie.16 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Yuy63Yp6nnYjf1gRMONDHIF7AlPJEtrUAUcCnY6fRs=; b=lQc+JYlrKJt4s39W0hsG8MYohRKij6LDqrf+Hw5fyDdzPpmqv6aJXIz4nHHIPHHCzy m9WTyvhq2jz6lwwrOx768y//CIjF0yBv2fwdr3OWGrVYO0JXOlQhhNSHbO1JJK+oFkGJ LdyZMNTlARf7AbX/4L5eAM2Qhlp+JKOnVpzTw= Received: by 10.91.207.4 with SMTP id j4mr61321agq.21.1311872080775; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.22.16 with SMTP id 16ls2685903agv.7.gmail; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.161.42 with SMTP id v30mr74325yhk.30.1311872078101; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.161.42 with SMTP id v30mr74324yhk.30.1311872078090; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5si918105yhe.4.2011.07.28.09.54.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.181; Received: by yxi13 with SMTP id 13so2099262yxi.26 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.132 with SMTP id b4mr160960icv.414.1311872077647; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.172.201 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jul 2011 09:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1311870454.18589.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <201107191408.50207.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1311780839.58357.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1311870454.18589.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:54:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: > Questing typically involves a number of emotions, though > none is particularly relevant to it and the same goes for questioning.=A0= In > short, what has any of this to do with Lojban (which is presumably design= ed > to avoid this sort of thing altogether, though can never succeed with hum= an > speakers)? I strongly disagree with your last sentence. You're free to presume whatever you want about Lojban but the mere existence of the emotionals in Lojban speaks against your presumption. If you're looking for a way to eliminate emotions and will find suitable to use Lojban for it, I'm very happy for you. Lojban is so powerful it can be surely used this way. Saying that one of the design principle of Lojban was to eliminate emotions from communications is false or, at very least, extremely misleading. remod --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.