From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCClsvxBBoEPZF66A@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 29 08:00:36 2011 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QmoY9-00082Q-6x; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:33 -0700 Received: by fxd2 with SMTP id 2sf7103011fxd.16 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=n1m/rIa615McfCswzqxyuVQni5NpX0AaooWGoLzxxTU=; b=faO7IOSa6UFJs8ghwYv7gW3o8vRqu5uMCFYW7KUtyqHdVz2X1NKtMDHKpmnHVQ1yAd mGChHR98QNdaJtPaYmSDqgQqw8CPOXe7CUVs1OeKtpEAHJ6tGjOrrdOHMpTBfctXNELX p1bMP5oA7CtyFBFqWhePc8tPZroopGBP8MKuI= Received: by 10.223.157.208 with SMTP id c16mr701532fax.33.1311951618336; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.106.37 with SMTP id v37ls5160854wbo.1.gmail; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.175.77 with SMTP id w13mr155398wbz.8.1311951617454; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.175.77 with SMTP id w13mr155397wbz.8.1311951617435; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh14si3922073wbb.0.2011.07.29.08.00.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4so4153474wwf.35 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.55.142 with SMTP id u14mr884408wbg.87.1311951617259; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.47.135 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:59:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201107191408.50207.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1311780839.58357.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1311870454.18589.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1311886424.23009.YahooMailRC@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1311949276.34356.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:59:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Gerunds, infinitives and other technicalities To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30025e941bf9ee04a9368aee --20cf30025e941bf9ee04a9368aee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > So, I don't know what to do... Assuming there is some X which is > (Question+Questioning+Quest), how should a lojbanist term it ? "da poi zi'e poi zi'e poi " maybe? "lo broda no'u zi'e no'u zi'e no'u " perhaps? It seems like there are two parts to your question. 1) how to combine concepts in the OOP multiple inheritance kind of way. (this one is the least problematic, IMO) lojban has a plethora of mechanisms for combining things. See above for two possible solutions 2) definitions for your concepts of "Question", "Questioning", and "Quest" (all big Q) If the concept is sufficiently complex enough that it needs a chapter in your book to talk about you may just want to coin a fu'ivla or lujvo (make sure it's big enough not to collide with simpler concepts) and then start talking about what it means. This seems to be the route that most philosophers take. I don't see why jbopijyskepre should change the pattern. Define a word that you want to contain a lot of connotation and then spend a lifetime of writing to specify all that connotation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf30025e941bf9ee04a9368aee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > So, I don't know what to do... =A0 Assuming ther= e is some X which is
> (Question+Questioning+Quest), how should a lojbanist term it ?<= div>
"da poi <question> zi'e poi <questioning> = zi'e poi <quest>" maybe?
"lo broda no'u <question> zi'e no'u <questioni= ng> zi'e no'u <quest>" perhaps?

It seems like there are two parts to your q= uestion.

1) how to combine concepts in the OOP multi= ple=A0inheritance=A0kind of way.
(this one is the least problematic, IMO) lojban has a plethora of mechan= isms for combining things. =A0See above for two possible solutions

2) definitions for your concepts of "Q= uestion", "Questioning", and "Quest" (all big Q)
If the concept is sufficiently complex enough that it needs a chapter in= your book to talk about you may just want to coin a fu'ivla or lujvo (= make sure it's big enough not to collide with simpler concepts) and the= n start talking about what it means. =A0This seems to be the route that mos= t philosophers take. =A0I don't see why jbopijyskepre should change the= pattern. =A0Define a word that you want to contain a lot of connotation an= d then spend a lifetime of writing to specify all that connotation.<= /font>

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