From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCHnsvxBBoEMThD8w@googlegroups.com Fri Jul 29 08:17:41 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qmook-0005An-6p; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:40 -0700 Received: by vxg38 with SMTP id 38sf1893071vxg.16 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=1MTWcXHoSRBHcxqSTlw4sWwfrMy6yeZ81//htnCQ5yw=; b=t2MLNAkb0qQmH8SFud6zUBn5+ifmcMsnw97ewxVO41+Th6/5iGmC5mTGP5Qqt7ltbc 4QsCe2Z5bxPi8hbFD5L1YaDgESYGxKq39pSUpb8mIySUoJbGpNlTtfSRm3NgWVoxKXhc UsQy5PMRQBwhRmm0pKPKJK87uxDQBt+FCDkKU= Received: by 10.220.152.201 with SMTP id h9mr269515vcw.18.1311952647914; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.161.199 with SMTP id xu7ls2265976vdb.0.gmail; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.176 with SMTP id n16mr403721vdf.20.1311952644423; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.176 with SMTP id n16mr403720vdf.20.1311952644402; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v13si2677981vdf.3.2011.07.29.08.17.23; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=ssmF66tmMQYA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=czT-ejpPo6uejl6nj8gA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:52974] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 26/1B-00666-10FC23E4; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:17:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D551A0CA for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:17:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] groupyness in definitions Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:17:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201107291117.19098.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 29 July 2011 10:02:06 Luke Bergen wrote: > Which, I've discovered that that's something else that I haven't gotten > used to. For some reason my brain thinks that {lo broda jo'u lo brode} > should be completely legal and understandable. For some reason {lo broda > jo'u brode} looks strange to me. Like, how would I say {la bab jo'u la mat > cu broda} if {jo'u} doesn't take a sumti to the left, a sumti to the right, > and then join them as a non-logical connective? The LALR1 grammar cannot handle both cases; if you say "lo broda jo'u" to the YACC, it considers "jo'u" to join "broda" with another selbri, and when the next word is "lo", it chokes. To solve this, you have to say "ku" to terminate "lo broda" when joining it with "lo brode". The PEG handles it both ways. Pierre -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.