From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDugMTwBBoEGSWWUw@googlegroups.com Sun Jul 03 16:51:28 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdWRe-0004k3-P7; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:27 -0700 Received: by wwf27 with SMTP id 27sf8913949wwf.16 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=C3oWCLc/kZ/gzkOrgZIO6h5zdqO5FAEwz7ezffJHv3k=; b=0DS+CbQfCQ52c1Xa2tz3O2S30nCC4MuenHk1h7Xb9Zv+I3EduWLykZDK9DspF/mdKc 7UgNAlyHI/cbQIGBBRz/X+YNYhgvzHcYmdj5crrRMLqO7ChbGRTrneGTcvDAUQZtrpnV qCbRfUSF+3Bpqyvv3dftTsyu6kJLBdKpNWFgc= Received: by 10.216.138.31 with SMTP id z31mr1899273wei.15.1309737070601; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.5.206 with SMTP id 14ls2418158wbw.0.gmail; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.203 with SMTP id l53mr288399wed.0.1309737069041; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.203 with SMTP id l53mr288398wed.0.1309737068981; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f177.google.com (mail-wy0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh14si3833722wbb.0.2011.07.03.16.51.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4582892wyf.22 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.58.131 with SMTP id q3mr3059816wec.25.1309737068656; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.77 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.71.77 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:51:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 19:51:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0cce6b9f6d404a732ec37 --000e0ce0cce6b9f6d404a732ec37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow. That is an ancient proposal. It sounds interesting. Whatever happened to it? I can see in my copy of the cll that it didn't get adopted yet it seems to be getting use in the real world. Guess I'll just keep in mind that sometimes people will say gi'e and sometimes they'll say gije. Likewise for ge vs jegi. Unless someone tries to redefine ge/gi'e is there really any collision between the two usages anyway? On Jul 3, 2011 7:19 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : >> When asked about "gije" someone replied with a link to the page for >> the zasni gerna cenba vreji >> (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dzasni+gerna+cenba+vrej= i) >> I don't see anything about "gije" on that page but it could very well be >> that that construct being legal and having the same meaning as "gi'e" is >> just a bi-product of one of the changes listed. Could someone go into a >> little detail on which of the changes on that page makes "gije" behave like >> "gi'e"? > > This was the original proposal: > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/131b44ba66d8a108= /bac4b378caafbdeb > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Wow.=A0 That is an ancient proposal.=A0 It sounds interesting.=A0 Whatev= er happened to it?=A0 I can see in my copy of the cll that it didn't ge= t adopted yet it seems to be getting use in the real world.

Guess I'll just keep in mind that sometimes people will say gi'e= and sometimes they'll say gije. Likewise for ge vs jegi.

Unless someone tries to redefine ge/gi'e is there really any collisi= on between the two usages anyway?

On Jul 3, 2011 7:19 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&q= uot; <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Luke= Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
>> When asked about "gije" someone replied with a link to t= he page for
>> the=A0zasni gerna cenba vreji
>> (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dzasni+gerna+cenba+vreji= )
>> I don't see anything about "gije" on that page but i= t could very well be
>> that that construct being legal and having= the same meaning as "gi'e" is
>> just a bi-product = of one of the changes listed. =A0Could someone go into a
>> little detail on which of the changes on that page makes "gij= e" behave like
>> "gi'e"?
>
> This= was the original proposal:
>
> = http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/131b44ba66d8a108= /bac4b378caafbdeb
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> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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