From lojban+bncCN3Yu8CaCRCUltHxBBoEbXZQkQ@googlegroups.com Sat Jul 30 11:19:14 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QnE7y-00007a-Jl; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:19:13 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf6587687gxk.16 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sdgwirQwVxLjDGGz/Ud+snxthzns6drWkaBVWzTQO7g=; b=qswGT42yQf5s2cjoblga3K2HCgQgfcpGVK710TeMiw0SkqTLvguiUhqXScBsEF/Ez+ YOkuUiYPLfgcF4WHMwGObsMnATsgWCW5wdSo3OKM8T69gqM+O1lEUl8C3osyZ0dKn8d/ drgsGzpQUBoSzvs5pt7Q8xmPDT8E+5upVtNfI= Received: by 10.236.76.234 with SMTP id b70mr268458yhe.12.1312049940429; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.160.20 with SMTP id m20ls9588571ago.0.gmail; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.153.135 with SMTP id f7mr783326yhk.148.1312049939883; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.25.1 with SMTP id 1msyby; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.201.1 with SMTP id d1mr363845anq.2.1311465078605; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110422 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.6.17,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <9c8c55e0-a06f-4894-a51c-99f1bd8cfaf1@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Possible error in camxes / PEG grammar (handling of elidable elements) From: Mantycore To: lojban X-Original-Sender: mantycore@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi .a'u.a'o rodo I noticed what jbofi'e and camxes handle CU differently. For example, in {mi pu kalte gi'e citka} jbofi'e interpretes {pu} as selbri tag (and so it is applies only to the first bridi-tail), and camxes interpretes it as a tag term (and so it applies to the whole sentence): jbofi'e: mi (pu kalte) gi'e citka camxes: (mi pu) (kalte gi'e citka) jbofi'e with -ie option reconstructs elidable elements as {mi CU pu kalte VAU gi'e citka VAU VAU}. camxes seem to interpret the same sentence as {mi pu KU CU kalte VAU gi'e citka VAU VAU}. I guess jbofi'e handles the sentence correctly, and so there must be an error in camxes and/or in PEG grammar used by it. Unfortunately, I am not able to point it out, but I hope what this report will be of use. mi'e la ramcinfo re'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.