From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCQwM7wBBoEZs9ygQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jul 05 16:37:03 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeFAp-000216-P0; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:37:03 -0700 Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31sf8212794qyk.16 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=39SjfHCSKnOgJ+aYdj7M35bKJVKa6kkNx70I1zgXj5c=; b=EY1xkSxuADJWIJG7UtrLqE/7cdPhdZr8gDU5IQ3Wp+25nseA7TQDz3S7hv7vErcvln zTBUJl9TR1f/LvY2idJf4z61yRibYAxyUeVqdYDCi1jZx2RT6zE59lsCNyrFsoef/F6/ Lcuj7Nj57fHjO/yydvLN3ZzeE041KaiBQOfVQ= Received: by 10.229.42.212 with SMTP id t20mr829900qce.46.1309909008652; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.187.145 with SMTP id cw17ls1696018qab.2.gmail; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.209.132 with SMTP id gg4mr8148633qab.19.1309909008099; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.209.132 with SMTP id gg4mr8148632qab.19.1309909008089; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k32si7416961qcs.1.2011.07.05.16.36.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.169; Received: by vxg38 with SMTP id 38so6679180vxg.14 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.68.240 with SMTP id z16mr3146543vdt.297.1309909007742; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.181.98 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110705231158.GZ8547@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110705170131.GN8547@digitalkingdom.org> <20110705222333.GV8547@digitalkingdom.org> <20110705231158.GZ8547@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:36:47 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] sivni jikca From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 07:54:44PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> >> "za'u [pa] re'u" =3D "not for the first time" =3D "again". > > No, that's "for the more than oneth time"; it applies to *every* > time except the first. Just like "again". I tried on Monday, then again on Tuesday, and yet again on Wednesday. > I want "nexth" not "greater than oneth". "next-th" seems to put an additional focus on the preceding time, rather than just saying that the time in question is a repetition, not the original one. > The second time is {za'u re'u}, but so is the thousandth; Yes, just like "again". > it needs > to be relative to whatever the current counter is, and we don't have > a "current number" in PA. Why? "again" doesn't keep track of which time it is, just not the first one= . >> lo nu za'u re'u broda =3D lo krefu be lo nu broda bei li za'u > > .ie .i ku'i mi djica le balvi lamji krefu po'o .e nai ro krefu be fi > le za'u "za'u re'u" only says that the time in question is not the first one. It is a single time, one other than the first one. You seem to be saying that it says that the time in question is all times but the first. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.