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Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_9635612_AHjHjkQAAVBlTkpu0Q4ibGg1+/c Subject: Re: [lojban] da broda, ko'a broda, da bu'a, zo'e co'e Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:38:09 -0400 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.52.221 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Aren't any unbound 'da's, each is inherently bound by a particular quantifier. That is a difference fro 'ko'a', which refers to specific referential. Sent from my iPad On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:21, tijlan wrote: > Suppose there is a context where I have not specified "da" and "ko'a". > Under what additional condition should I have "da poi ..." and not > "ko'a poi ..." in order to create a re-usable variable for a specific > referent? What is it that "da" can achieve but "ko'a" cannot, besides > that unbound "da" is meaningless? > > mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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