From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxD3k7ryBBoEUR0sRw@googlegroups.com Fri Aug 19 09:06:28 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QuRaT-0005Ii-Ex; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:28 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf3558631vwe.16 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=yrxXxuRz/j2F4k9kaeX5HiB3UPEutkIPsAoyzcwJiYc=; b=aiPhwIFvgiDHELjouwJJhBs5a0/2R8Rd3kiJW33YCmlwkEPDfDHvND37hDqLadY152 fOF8O/3a5r5Se6wpmDes7De6lSXYA4aaRxPXUxDMtrBC4D5i4vDtxD8nlzoK8Ls2EizT 8D9irowHN8gaY8wrjnFGdNV132W9Zdyct8qcE= Received: by 10.220.191.74 with SMTP id dl10mr710839vcb.55.1313769975880; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.177.133 with SMTP id cq5ls5853572vdc.0.gmail; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.173.230 with SMTP id bn6mr2393298vdc.0.1313769970451; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.173.230 with SMTP id bn6mr2393297vdc.0.1313769970442; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t2si9517505vdv.2.2011.08.19.09.06.08; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=5ZzvENk2wXFPpwAQS6MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:55358] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C2/FA-00666-0F98E4E4; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E1417B5F for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:06:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Easy Lujvo Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:06:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108191206.05093.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 19 August 2011 09:24:41 Remo Dentato wrote: > I've compiled a small table of the "easy lujvo" that were discussed > here some time ago. > > The idea is to extend what we normally do with {-gau} that allows us > to create lujvo on the fly knowing that {rodgau} means {ko'a gasnu lo > nu ko'e broda ko'i ko'o ko'u}. > > Would someone check if they all make sense? Especially that the lojban > gloss is sound. I've tried to be as consistent as possible (e.g. all > the terms of comparison are x2). "rodrai" and "tolrodrai" need to be distinguished in the Lojban gloss.=20 Also "tol-" is pretty common by itself, as are "nal-" and "nor-". For morphologic reasons, "-mau" is sometimes replaced with "zma", or for=20 phonotactic reasons, vice versa. "ficbo'e" violates phonotactics. I'd put "frica" as a suffix. The first word I thought of beginning with "fi= c"=20 is "ficysi'u". "re frica prenu" means "two different people (both different= =20 from someone else)", whereas "re ficysi'u prenu" means "two different peopl= e=20 (different from each other)". "simxu" should be in the list. "jdika" should not be crossed out, it just doesn't have a short rafsi. I don't remember seeing "-bra" or "-cma" added to arbitrary gismu, except= =20 in "plisycma", which was a joke. Usually they're prefixes. "rodcre" violates phonotactics. I don't think "-cre" is common enough to=20 include in the list. I don't think "si'o-" is that common as a prefix. You may be thinking=20 of "siz-", which is the rafsi of the cmavo "si'o". The suffix "-si'o" is=20 fairly close to "-ism". Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.