From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDv08PyBBoEOU_i1w@googlegroups.com Sun Aug 21 04:20:28 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qv64m-0005o2-Lp; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:28 -0700 Received: by vxh2 with SMTP id 2sf5141576vxh.16 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=kR25HagGUnIqN9zjngbsTuqoZay7/Up+HoyHpKWNNq4=; b=JIXG/OmP3mq2N3tbpFo8QcaIRCkbtz3xXZ1g9CNmKd6ROTydH+iNLfblPfE/NIhuU+ n0DU0dM4I6JrddT3ud6Dgp4LHp4myAZdsVQ/4gAKjesd/MOwXM9Yyxz4SrL+iYhFvI2I hb6OTH4lwh+RI/un7wIUYTsCnO7TcNzidaFfo= Received: by 10.220.187.199 with SMTP id cx7mr190657vcb.15.1313925615300; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.28.171 with SMTP id c11ls7568322vdh.1.gmail; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.196 with SMTP id n4mr765455vdv.19.1313925614757; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.196 with SMTP id n4mr765454vdv.19.1313925614748; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bh5si12782208vdc.3.2011.08.21.04.20.13; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=842D-xoXaksA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=kJWgn42TW04Sny33P3QA:9 a=LO1zKHDIHA8fDaZIRc8A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:38985] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7D/71-00666-CE9E05E4; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:20:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561E220860 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:20:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: nelrai is an exception? Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:20:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108210720.10123.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 21 August 2011 05:28:21 Remo Dentato wrote: > Sorry! I hit Return too early! :( > > Looking at jbovlaste I've seen that some of lujvo ending in rai > (traji) have their x2 set as traji4. while other don't: > > brarai =A0 $t_1=3Db_1$ is the biggest among set/range $t_4$ > property/dimension $b_2$ (ka). > dibrai $t_1=3Dd_1$ is dearest/most precious to $d_2$ among set/range > $x_3=3Dt_4$. mlerai $m_1=3Dt_1$ is most beautiful among set/range $t_3$ = to > $m_2$ in aspect $m_3$ (ka) by aesthetic standard $m_4$. > nelrai $n_1$ is most fond of $n_2=3Dt_1$ (object/state) from set > $t_4$, due to extreme $t_3$ (ka, default ka zmadu). > > Wouldn't it be easier to standardize? I would prefer that x2 would > consitenlly be traji4. "nelrai" should be "n1=3Dt1, out of t4, likes n2 most". The current definit= ion=20 of "nelrai" should be called "rairnei". See "neizma" and "zmanei".=20 Possibly "raimle" and "rairdirba" should be defined analogously. Pierre --=20 Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.