From lojban+bncCJbznvHdFRDE0fDxBBoE7NwbxA@googlegroups.com Fri Aug 05 10:31:09 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOEY-0003vQ-UV; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:31:09 -0700 Received: by yie36 with SMTP id 36sf676398yie.16 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1QfoTXRnc6byA8qlIDuvRWzPHHsmSG4fHQKhYQQvIyU=; b=psAdQQR01SHkkxP+CFlwWGpy4UFJ3trwsljcwo7OxNuCE0lWl55M9Y4GSNGdrERHTe KFPIdrU3+ica4/UXsNHprjvdizOowWWq5B/rPZ/UtN0Gq5Wqq5oEO3JUZqvhh1PHtw4I FjlUwdERLpoLAjVbbDPq7kFx88MjhnEgQHy7c= Received: by 10.236.118.146 with SMTP id l18mr481287yhh.25.1312565444692; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.217 with SMTP id u25ls1685527bks.0.gmail; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.133 with SMTP id d5mr289808bkd.21.1312565441528; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.133 with SMTP id d5mr289807bkd.21.1312565441503; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k16si1416616fah.0.2011.08.05.10.30.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.41; Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so2271797fxg.14 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.64.66 with SMTP id d2mr3181014fai.116.1312565441300; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.72.11 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:30:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201108050747.17647.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:30:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Klingon proverbs in Lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174764b4df890b04a9c5745c --0015174764b4df890b04a9c5745c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I was just about to send a message about using krefu. Whether it's right > or not, I've seen and use myself the form {mi krefu citka} for things like > "I eat again". > That was my first thought, too, with "krefu", but then it seemed to mean (using your example) "I eat again and again" (i.e., recurringly), which is not quite what I wanted. stevo > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> On Friday 05 August 2011 01:43:04 MorphemeAddict wrote: >>> > gunta fa la veklarg >>> > >>> > I don't know how to say "again" ('x+1'th occurrence?). >>> >>> za'ure'u - that's what it was in Alice. >>> >>> Pierre >>> >> Does "za'u re'u" already contain the idea of 'time' or 'occurrence'? It >> seems to be just an ordinal number meaning 'further', 'additional'. >> >> Does this work: >> za'u re'u gunta fa la veklarg >> >> I also found "krefu", but I don't know if/how "krefu" can be used to get >> the meaning of 'again'. >> >> stevo >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
I was just about to send a messa= ge about using krefu. =A0Whether it's right or not, I've seen and u= se myself the form {mi krefu citka} for things like "I eat again"= .
=A0
That was my first thought, too, with "krefu", but then it se= emed to mean (using your example) "I eat again and again" (i.e., = recurringly), which is not quite what I wanted.
=A0
stevo

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw= @gmail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu= > wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2011 01:43:04 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> gunta = fa la veklarg
>
> I don't know how to say "again"= ('x+1'th occurrence?).

za'ure'u - that's = what it was in Alice.

Pierre
Does "za'u re'u" already contain the idea of 'ti= me' or 'occurrence'? It seems to be just an ordinal number mean= ing 'further', 'additional'.
=A0
Does this work:
za'u re'u gunta fa la veklarg
=A0
I also found "krefu", but I don't know if/how "kref= u" can be used to get the meaning of 'again'.
=A0
stevo

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