From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCXsc_yBBoEhki0wg@googlegroups.com Tue Aug 23 09:43:17 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvu4H-00063I-4G; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:16 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf188400vwe.16 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=w50d0Z7L8wxv0ZX5DvDIEzxB10CtV9OdqooCgu4qABg=; b=j0naoj82Q/M17KueTC+eXZc6Vd1DgG6/bd9zBGDUoC4cMaj+P+1VFHgmfDv7g5zwix DwP5rCj7sbvj6xO+T3b0XGnXhBxCU0HZqldqPRwGKtiy83kY/bo/fI7SVBrDhVU4NhBl mO0iBrPrCkJPz9vCmseFmatT/9tF4lPOqnWGU= Received: by 10.220.39.73 with SMTP id f9mr363140vce.18.1314117783725; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.221.0.18 with SMTP id nk18ls12382041vcb.4.gmail; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.4 with SMTP id t4mr17715528yhm.3.1314117782767; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.185.4 with SMTP id t4mr17715515yhm.3.1314117782694; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f42.google.com (mail-pz0-f42.google.com [209.85.210.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si498965pbi.2.2011.08.23.09.43.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.42; Received: by mail-pz0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 37so676124pzk.15 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.224.7 with SMTP id w7mr2184049wfg.215.1314117782438; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.56.38 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:43:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201108171136.25073.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201108172249.19108.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:43:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] frugari? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28e3e9d84d804ab2ee3e9 --000e0cd28e3e9d84d804ab2ee3e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mi na se ke mutce fanza lo fu'ivla to ku'i mi nelrai lujvo toi .iku'i pe'u pir pe'u pir ko setca lo cnino se finti fu'ivla la jbovlaste ki'e --gejyspa On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > Botanical Latin (much of which is Greek) has a great influence on English > > plant names, so I don't find that odd. Geranium, azalea (obsolete genus), > > rhododendron (now includes azalea), violet (Viola), coleus, cactus, ... > Some > > Lojban animal or plant names are from indigenous languages, e.g. > "arxokuna" > > (aka prokiono or lumge'u) and "ckankua" are both from the same Algonquian > > sources as the English words. I recently added "xomxeci", from the Seri > > language spoken in the area where the plant grows. > > do ta'e finti so'i melbi fu'ivla .i ji'a mi morji fi zo tcabono noi > .ia do finti .i ji'a mi morji fi zo klamburi noi fraso fu'ivla zi'e > noi .ia do finti zi'e noi .ia no drata be mi to mi .e do ju'o cu'i .i > xu do nelci toi cu nelci > > ni'o .a'o ma'a kakne lo nu ba finti rau cinri poi fu'ivla .i rau bangu > cu zasti gi'e te valsi lo cinri .i .au ma'a cu pe'a ganra catlu .i > mu'a pa'arbau fu'ivla .i mu'a jbobau jbobau fu'ivla mu'u zo sorpeka .i > .au le ponjo jbopre cu ponjo fu'ivla finti .i rolbau jmaji .i zdile > > mi'e la stela selckiku > mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Stela Selckiku = <selckiku@gmail.= com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:49 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>> Botanical Latin (much of which is Greek) has a great influence on En= glish
> plant names, so I don't find that odd. Geranium, azalea (obsolete = genus),
> rhododendron (now includes azalea), violet (Viola), coleus,= cactus, ... Some
> Lojban animal or plant names are from indigenous = languages, e.g. "arxokuna"
> (aka prokiono or lumge'u) and "ckankua" are both from th= e same Algonquian
> sources as the English words. I recently added &q= uot;xomxeci", from the Seri
> language spoken in the area where = the plant grows.

do ta'e finti so'i melbi fu'ivla .i ji'a mi morji= fi zo tcabono noi
.ia do finti .i ji'a mi morji fi zo klamburi noi = fraso fu'ivla zi'e
noi .ia do finti zi'e noi .ia no drata be= mi to mi .e do ju'o cu'i .i
xu do nelci toi cu nelci

ni'o .a'o ma'a kakne lo nu ba f= inti rau cinri poi fu'ivla .i rau bangu
cu zasti gi'e te valsi l= o cinri .i .au ma'a cu pe'a ganra catlu .i
mu'a pa'arbau= fu'ivla .i mu'a jbobau jbobau fu'ivla mu'u zo sorpeka .i .au le ponjo jbopre cu ponjo fu'ivla finti .i rolbau jmaji .i zdile
=
mi'e la stela selckiku
mu'o

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