From lojban+bncCNCCoMTMDhDR6tXyBBoEbsYOtQ@googlegroups.com Wed Aug 24 15:04:14 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QwLYP-0008Ab-RJ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:14 -0700 Received: by yxk8 with SMTP id 8sf2256674yxk.16 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=iIK5C9ugKHfIB0O24nHmWH+ccbQBDbZNt8Ul27L6cwQ=; b=x7EF41uNzGhhOVv8oekLc3+yhPhKW1xEXHbDaLyhmEa/VBOLiW+Gjc0OUzFBMcjYA/ fq/eVJgywrzhKODNLi1rO+8ulO+a8x2FXxNYyaqPLBuo6QXTGNutERWvFzcZSIq+X4Oy dFY6Twk56C4TviftvDjeO2UkhS9qr0hhsEQio= Received: by 10.151.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr1056642ybi.41.1314223441415; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.8.144 with SMTP id h16ls6786780ibh.1.gmail; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.151.129 with SMTP id e1mr405423icw.4.1314223440454; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.151.129 with SMTP id e1mr405422icw.4.1314223440445; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com (mail-pz0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si303410pbi.2.2011.08.24.15.04.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.41; Received: by mail-pz0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 4so1730765pzk.14 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.128.17 with SMTP id a17mr2696964wfd.92.1314223440321; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.78.5 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201108240558.45886.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <17f5d582-ffcb-4959-a779-1dc8f65dc272@en1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <201108240558.45886.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:03:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Far away To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > What would {mi zutse vi lo mitre zu'a lo tricu} mean? My understanding is that it means "I sit just (a) meter(s) in some direction from somewhere to the left of a tree." My reasoning is that it's possible to have various legs on our imaginary journey: {ga'u vu vu'a va zu'a vi bu'u} = "far above somewhat to the west of just to the left of here/there", or with measurements: {ga'u vu lo minli vu'a va lo mitre be li ci ze zu'a vi lo gutci be li ci bu'u} = "one mile above thirty seven meters to the west of three inches left of here/there". So the FAhA to the right of a VA is where it's a distance from, and a FAhA to the left of a VA is in which direction to go that distance, thus: {zu'a va} = "a medium distance to the left" and {va zu'a} = "a medium distance in some direction from somewhere on the left". mu'omi'e la stela selckiku -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.