From lojban+bncCJbznvHdFRCP7_DxBBoEdGorDw@googlegroups.com Fri Aug 05 11:34:06 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QpPDf-0005SG-0g; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:34:06 -0700 Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4sf1560590wwf.16 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=riyiuZG6CtagS9HoRwd5y52GLPxUE6Kmg2iRsdsmG5U=; b=LBQ9PRhY5YeO+Qhzqzjuia7iNbYmTCryQedtJWKQsyKX4hwahiBCtcfXudW0PY5uMg esyD8NkWbik9zrl6KfDQDeOLnKuXATWxKZdvoq2QlIBRcpzCUe3zZI7p7BCTwsg4Icr8 bvs3Z+0le3zbR8wchDIBCyzunsqkaVuPtW6gs= Received: by 10.216.170.21 with SMTP id o21mr933675wel.1.1312569231867; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.213.9.212 with SMTP id m20ls780706ebm.0.gmail; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.98.70 with SMTP id p6mr230278ebn.13.1312569230512; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.98.70 with SMTP id p6mr230277ebn.13.1312569230480; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f49.google.com (mail-fx0-f49.google.com [209.85.161.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w1si23855fag.1.2011.08.05.11.33.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.49; Received: by mail-fx0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 20so743604fxd.36 for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.98.83 with SMTP id p19mr3356611fan.2.1312569230265; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:33:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.72.11 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:33:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:33:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Klingon proverbs in Lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bef46b68d4d04a9c65600 --0015174bef46b68d4d04a9c65600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hagh qoHpu' neH HeghtaHvIS SuvwI'pu' Only fools laugh while warriors die. cmila fa po'o lo bebna ca nu mrobi'o fa lo damba stevo On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > No, none of those is a replacement proverb. > In Klingon circles, a 'replacement proverb' (qa'meH vIttlhegh) is uttered > by a person immediately after he feels he has lost honor, e.g., by > committing a gaff in public, and thus attempts to regain his honor. > > Examples from "Power Klingon", an audio cassette by Marc Okrand, include: > > DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu' > Set fire on the side when there is danger. > > reH Suvrup SuvwI''a' > A great warrior is always prepared. > > Hagh qoHpu' neH HeghtaHvIS SuvwI'pu' > Only fools laugh while warriors die. > > HIvqa' veqlargh > The Fek'lhr strikes again. > > The replacement proverbs are basically interchangeable; any one can be used > on any occasion when it is felt necessary. The literal meanings are also > completely irrelevant. Replacement proverbs are similar to apologies in > other cultures. > > stevo > (aka lay'tel SIvten) > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> hmm, I assume that by "Klingong replacement proverbs" you mean (for >> example) some of the entires here: >> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Klingon_proverbs >> >> lo ba'e bajra nanmu cu kakne lo nu ka'argau lo voki'o galxe ze'i lo pa >> nicte >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:18 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> >>> Just a thought. >>> Translate Klingon replacement proverbs into Lojban. >>> >>> Curiouser and curiouser. >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Hagh qoHpu' neH HeghtaHvIS Su= vwI'pu'
Only fools laugh while warriors d= ie.

cmila fa po'o lo bebna ca nu mrobi'o fa lo damba
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stevo

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:16 PM, MorphemeAddict = <lytlesw@gmail.co= m> wrote:
No, none of those is a replacement proverb.
In Klingon circles, a 'replacement proverb' (qa'meH vIttlh= egh) is uttered by a person immediately after he feels he has lost honor, e= .g., by committing a gaff in public, and thus attempts to regain his honor.=
=A0
Examples from "Power Klingon", an audio cassette by Marc Okr= and, include:
=A0
DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' g= hu'
Set fire on the side when there i= s danger.
=A0
reH Suvrup SuvwI''a' =
A great warrior is always prepare= d.
=A0
Hagh qoHpu' neH HeghtaHvIS Su= vwI'pu'
Only fools laugh while warriors d= ie.

HIvqa' veqlargh
= The Fek'lhr strikes again.
=A0
The replacement proverbs are basically interchangeable; any one can be= used on any occasion when it is felt necessary. The literal meanings are a= lso completely irrelevant. Replacement proverbs are similar to apologies in= other cultures.
=A0
stevo
(aka lay'tel SIvten)

=A0
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
hmm, I assume that by "Klin= gong replacement proverbs" you mean (for example) some of the entires = here:=A0http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Klingon_proverbs=20

lo ba'e bajra nanmu cu kakne lo nu ka'argau lo voki'o galx= e=A0ze'i lo pa nicte


On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:18 PM, MorphemeAddict <<= a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lytlesw@gmail.com= > wrote:
Just a thought.
Translate Klingon replacement proverbs into Lojban.
=A0
Curiouser and curiouser.
=A0
stevo

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