From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCNw_XyBBoEzb69RA@googlegroups.com Tue Aug 30 15:17:59 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyWd3-00067n-80; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:59 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf61626vwe.16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JPk89ILFOsklF3eI4lVX9AIRKFShJAtouPHR09ZPtUA=; b=fYmeERN8tGmT+fFO9/vrBRHXQkta7sXotCNiRm5wnfkbkCPW5IVAiZ5EOejaq/yqdy FFxXpn0FCyI0eLW3JD8NFybyHDbKOuRlQ3fY8WbOEZGVLXsevQSNJeukOJ1skwPOXvLx i1Ru1tzfahM3iD2bMezYGhqNNzDeQfc/mPfFE= Received: by 10.220.106.130 with SMTP id x2mr160576vco.6.1314742669438; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.180.74 with SMTP id bt10ls5014626vcb.1.gmail; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.116.106 with SMTP id jv10mr533053vdb.28.1314742668513; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.116.106 with SMTP id jv10mr533051vdb.28.1314742668466; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f48.google.com (mail-qw0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh5si8789740vdc.3.2011.08.30.15.17.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.48; Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so100113qwj.7 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.202 with SMTP id x10mr4497201vde.452.1314742667126; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.169.38 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201108191206.05093.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:17:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Easy Lujvo From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > 2011/8/22 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > >> "remsi'o" could perhaps be used for "humanism", but "sizre'a" would >> seem to be "x1 is the idea that x2 is human". > > I would think of more as "x1 is [Platonic] ideal human" (i.e. a human > of ideas, rather than the idea of a human). For "remsi'o", for "sizre'a", or for both? The CLL rule for the place structure of "NU zei broda" gives "x1 si'o x2 remna kei x3" for "sizre'a". http://dag.github.com/cll/12/12/ mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.