From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCWzPXyBBoEknkn_Q@googlegroups.com Tue Aug 30 15:37:21 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QyWvm-0000Ci-Ld; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:21 -0700 Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3sf94536gxk.16 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z5vw9pnXVu5utZGxMrhHmZyjA9I/54pufcyXeBGEo/k=; b=T2Y1vEGfvHzOEJDzx6+boKYoWDi81GGJKu5k5QdjzNnmqc1rv5xuWVIkB7/VBO3jy9 JoagnohbbC6rCoI0X7W+v5JtsBvABMzH4YpsGLlGhjqWOI98H/sPsah0cEefasUvlF6/ uOE4/Mg7bercjXCfL5xCfftMJ+KmfeLjbHofg= Received: by 10.90.15.19 with SMTP id 19mr635316ago.12.1314743830998; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.202.200 with SMTP id ff8ls768113ibb.6.gmail; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.157.9 with SMTP id b9mr4377545icx.19.1314743830125; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.157.9 with SMTP id b9mr4377544icx.19.1314743830116; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f45.google.com (mail-pz0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kr11si18423776pbb.1.2011.08.30.15.37.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.45; Received: by mail-pz0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 33so247895pzk.4 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.230.9 with SMTP id c9mr3855800wfh.342.1314743829945; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.60.9 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:37:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201108191206.05093.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:37:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Easy Lujvo From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/8/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: >> 2011/8/22 Jorge Llamb=EDas : >> >>> "remsi'o" could perhaps be used for "humanism", but "sizre'a" would >>> seem to be "x1 is the idea that x2 is human". >> >> I would think of more as "x1 is [Platonic] ideal human" (i.e. a human >> of ideas, rather than the idea of a human). > > For "remsi'o", for "sizre'a", or for both? Sorry, should have specified. For sizre'a. But that's because I hadn't noticed you switched from the rafsi for sidbo (in the former) to that of si'o (in the latter), so never mind. Because I really meant that for sibre'a. --gejyspa > > The CLL rule for the place structure of "NU zei broda" gives "x1 si'o > x2 remna kei x3" for "sizre'a". > http://dag.github.com/cll/12/12/ > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.