From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBC9w5DyBBoE55tcHQ@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 11 11:39:08 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qra9p-0002HJ-1f; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:39:07 -0700 Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4sf7002104wwf.16 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Umci+JsXDMpT+3UQScRNuWLPQIK18FPwkWIKVG8ukus=; b=En4lurrENJe018LGc0ujft1UkHLKGlzlNGR3RrG5DoK234AJeYaHudAlMoDy3dd2fR PY35IpMQ/LqVZ4TJ7YepqNfR48f2Fqr2Xt0nLtK5w6jc4VX/F/2J1CiezvABHklFNDKm j4ousO90gEmZIvlUREnUXvg05FXldMELbZJsc= Received: by 10.216.123.1 with SMTP id u1mr265728weh.11.1313087933979; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.137.212 with SMTP id x20ls8175649wbt.0.gmail; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.177.195 with SMTP id bj3mr164109wbb.1.1313087932439; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.177.195 with SMTP id bj3mr164108wbb.1.1313087932412; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m17si2949331wbo.1.2011.08.11.11.38.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by wyh13 with SMTP id 13so2109016wyh.2 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.237.233 with SMTP id y83mr2524878weq.9.1313087932135; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.23.73 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:38:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Luke Bergen Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:38:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] no stressed syllables in a name To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517577416c0f88e04aa3f1b4a --001517577416c0f88e04aa3f1b4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, yes, I was spelling it the way I spell it in english. It's pronounced more like "brgyn" though that "y" is very short and it has no stress. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > I'm not sure what do you mean with "no stress" I instinctively put an > accent of the first "e": "B=E8rgen". > > Maybe it is pronounced as "byrgyn"? That I would be tempted to > pronounce with no stress (or with the same stress on the vocalic > sound). > > remod > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > The only thing I could find in the CLL was that names default to a > > penultimately stressed form and then anything other than that you speci= fy > > stress by marking the syllable that SHOULD be stressed with capital > letters > > (or a stress marker of some kind like crib=EA). > > But what if my name is pronounced with no stressed syllable at all? Ho= w > do > > I write "la bergen" with no stress? Would saying that the whole thing = is > > stressed have that effect? i.e. "la BERGEN"? > > Feels weird. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001517577416c0f88e04aa3f1b4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, yes, I was spelling it the way I spell it in english. =A0It's pr= onounced more like "brgyn" though that "y" is very shor= t and it has no stress.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2= 011 at 2:10 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure what do you mean with &quo= t;no stress" I instinctively put an
accent of the first "e": "B=E8rgen".

Maybe it is pronounced as "byrgyn"? That I would be tempted to pronounce with no stress (or with the same stress on the vocalic
sound).

remod


On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only thing I could find in the CLL was that names default to a
> penultimately stressed form and then anything other than that you spec= ify
> stress by marking the=A0syllable=A0that SHOULD be stressed with capita= l letters
> (or a stress marker of some kind like crib=EA).
> But what if my name is pronounced with no stressed=A0syllable at all? = =A0How do
> I write "la bergen" with no stress? =A0Would saying that the= whole thing is
> stressed have that effect? =A0i.e. "la BERGEN"?
> Feels weird.
>
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