From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCal5HyBBoEvx2ByQ@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 11 14:37:43 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qrcwe-0004i6-8v; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:42 -0700 Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33sf2619766qyk.16 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=SXC05BpLNXB3GojhN5DEQ2W9VxnoX+EN7urbldU4pOU=; b=d6Y+T6fXx/5CPQt/tfelYl058QHccEKJyrfnINJqzdUPDl+GFCgV7umZEaM2wtZ8Ej ZF2wW7o4MIfZP9GYmniKxcmgHjaiUSg22jflJ5Vdd21g8zr6eviIEl5+c5Fo8GFWNnmc 7WhGZzgkL/WRVgDQjpDCZqqmgfMPAQL0l/hEY= Received: by 10.224.209.135 with SMTP id gg7mr22706qab.15.1313098650052; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.174.15 with SMTP id r15ls4725433qaz.3.gmail; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.105.19 with SMTP id r19mr107513qao.34.1313098648922; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.105.19 with SMTP id r19mr107512qao.34.1313098648910; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w30si3367868qcz.0.2011.08.11.14.37.27; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8mDY8c80ZOa76EOwICuS+E2YRQjxDgO9xqUnRMONc7w= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=ixstNF-918gA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=O3wsxaKLfpH11IkS7SkA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:56976] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AE/A7-00666-79B444E4; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:37:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218C91792E for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] no stressed syllables in a name Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:37:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201108111737.19500.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 11 August 2011 13:19:31 Luke Bergen wrote: > The only thing I could find in the CLL was that names default to a > penultimately stressed form and then anything other than that you specify > stress by marking the syllable that SHOULD be stressed with capital lette= rs > (or a stress marker of some kind like crib=EA). > > But what if my name is pronounced with no stressed syllable at all? How = do > I write "la bergen" with no stress? Would saying that the whole thing is > stressed have that effect? i.e. "la BERGEN"? I think that, if no syllable is stressed, you could mark that by putting a= =20 breve on the syllable that would be stressed by default. But I don't have t= he=20 rules for default stress fully worked out. If a name consists entirely of= =20 consonants, should one of the consonants be stressed by default? Pierre --=20 li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.