From lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBCPwJHyBBoEupNn7w@googlegroups.com Thu Aug 11 16:05:00 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QreJ7-0000Ov-Jj; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:59 -0700 Received: by vwe42 with SMTP id 42sf704385vwe.16 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ktrflqp+CoUbIym9jirBSAed85eK70diDi/5ig/wMLw=; b=gGt6QiYsHC6i+i50oNW7aVuc/7p+uAwjUOzwfuCapm2iVXTJvQ+xNJINNGbjk8Zci2 qkmws7bt7oqM1PXdT8tQl8ePJ+4cbbFCXL1W+If0imsFmXTq7DhcoPDZ2Jada5uIFvfC GYeDNnRf2E8KTquqOOCNFOl2dUQCXc7Ha1rFk= Received: by 10.220.209.199 with SMTP id gh7mr36178vcb.48.1313103887238; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.221.0.18 with SMTP id nk18ls1387891vcb.4.gmail; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.196 with SMTP id n4mr100882vdv.19.1313103886466; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.73.196 with SMTP id n4mr100881vdv.19.1313103886457; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bv16si3245636vdc.1.2011.08.11.16.04.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.44; Received: by qwc23 with SMTP id 23so1699381qwc.31 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.246.2 with SMTP id lw2mr136448qcb.228.1313103886174; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.227.149 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:04:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] no stressed syllables in a name From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11 August 2011 19:10, Remo Dentato wrote: > I'm not sure what do you mean with "no stress" I instinctively put an > accent of the first "e": "B=E8rgen". > > Maybe it is pronounced as "byrgyn"? That I would be tempted to > pronounce with no stress (or with the same stress on the vocalic > sound). Not all natural languages use stress. That's especially the case for syllable- or mora-timed languages. "Paris" in French has no stress. "Tokyo" in Japanese has no stress. "Bergen" too can be pronounced naturally with no stress and as other than "byrgyn" in those languages. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.