From lojban+bncCNf8pM-bDBCM85jyBBoEcMWFOQ@googlegroups.com Sat Aug 13 01:45:13 2011 Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qs9qA-00025m-OR; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:45:12 -0700 Received: by vxh2 with SMTP id 2sf2250595vxh.16 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rlfRaPNtBngaXZJjasnWLZi+qD1319mx6rk9n8tgMNY=; b=NWARAxZFs03ifiDLIDTcJX6l0wHFqPTHX7C4R1eX5ZEBDfaYNyAQQNK64bOWn+a2LY EZY3wi9Hk0MMVF2QnYAe3hhBavgaoVgPOsGrxP8qRIRTkNZRyqdQVnas5vBriJlDYZCM MzOAIwALHctYxC0PXTDURbKXyz8fP01ldBNjg= Received: by 10.220.9.209 with SMTP id m17mr251602vcm.56.1313225100321; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.65.132 with SMTP id x4ls802839vds.0.gmail; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.235 with SMTP id h11mr661860vdu.34.1313225099615; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.235 with SMTP id h11mr661859vdu.34.1313225099605; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com (mail-qy0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2si5106968vdv.2.2011.08.13.01.44.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.179; Received: by mail-qy0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 35so2129010qyk.10 for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.66.222 with SMTP id o30mr1230355qci.189.1313225099406; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.227.149 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110811101134.GF10697@gonzales> References: <20110811101134.GF10697@gonzales> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:44:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and masses From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 11 August 2011 11:11, Martin Bays wrote: > The first appears to indicate that masses are still first-class > entities, such that e.g. in {lo tadni cu sruri le dinju}, the referents > of {lo tadni} are masses of students, not individual students. In > particular, it is reasonable for that {lo tadni} to have just one > referent. Does sruri1 have to be gunma1? Would the following be nonsense? lo se gunma cu sruri lo dinju Group-components are surrounding a building. Furthermore: lo ci prenu cu se lanzu gi'e lanzu 3 people are (distributively) family members and (collectively) a family. lo ci prenu cu se lanzu da gi'e lanzu de 3 people are (distributively) members of family X and (collectively) a family of members Y. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.