From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCS2a3zBBoEiwNqJw@googlegroups.com Sat Sep 10 06:56:45 2011 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2O30-0002EH-HZ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:45 -0700 Received: by wwf4 with SMTP id 4sf3429417wwf.16 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=SasdAJmq8OsS4AnpdcBE5i5YutvLXtHSMlL5mKzjN0I=; b=3rDS1q3A1rvN60a0T2mUgmpT6pJYkPlm2Jav3kQjy7ktpMqwNF93luKtw1UjodrhLy jV7oEnfaEGhy4RkMIM5MP9PyFbcGItyZ2IifLAVVpcs63Pch0IyINds9R5pO/+BOwm52 77X1bZSkXjSmWzJP9Ebs2debUxdlZPclfFGCE= Received: by 10.216.221.143 with SMTP id r15mr203552wep.13.1315662994303; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.21.210 with SMTP id r58ls1143689eer.0.gmail; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.2.138 with SMTP id 10mr139880ebj.7.1315662992906; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.2.138 with SMTP id 10mr139879ebj.7.1315662992883; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si222009fak.1.2011.09.10.06.56.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.53; Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so56955fxh.12 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.95.148 with SMTP id d20mr1392084fan.59.1315662992681; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.23.233 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:56:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:56:32 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > I've noticed that camxes allows any number of wovels and {'} before > the consonant cluster that each brivla must have. > > For example: {a'e'o'u'i'ailto} > > The CLL rule was that each brivla had to have a consonante cluster > within the first five letters, not counting {y} and {'}, has this > changed for fuhivla? Yes, I purposely dropped that requirement when writing the PEG morphology, since it was arbitrary and not needed for anything. There's no reason to allow ".a'a'alto" but forbid "pa'a'alto" due to some strange counting of letters rule. It was observed that in all lujvo and gismu there is a consonant cluster within the first five letters, and someone thought it was a good idea to impose this as a rule for all brivla, but since this is not something that is required to define lujvo or gismu, nor is it needed to make the parsing of fu'ivla unambiguous, it is a pointless rule. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.